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From: Eric Blake <eblake@redhat.com>
To: shwaresyst <shwaresyst@aol.com>,
	bruno@clisp.org, cbouchar@redhat.com, bug-m4@gnu.org,
	libc-alpha@sourceware.org, austin-group-l@opengroup.org
Subject: Re: SIGSTKSZ is now a run-time variable
Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2021 13:34:50 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <bff7814d-f7e7-7030-2ab1-1ad66ddab4a6@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <832918739.1734727.1615306471320@mail.yahoo.com>

On 3/9/21 10:14 AM, shwaresyst wrote:
> 
> To me that looks like a conformance violation and should be reverted. There is no _SC_SIGSTKSZ defined in <unistd.h> by the standard, to begin with, so that use of sysconf() is a non-portable extension on its own.

Portable apps can't use _SC_SIGSTKSZ, but the standard generally permits
implementations to define further constants.  Then again, re-reading XSH
2.2.2:

" Implementations may add symbols to the headers shown in the following
table, provided the identifiers for those symbols either:

    Begin with the corresponding reserved prefixes in the table, or
..."

but the table lacks a row for <unistd.h> with _CS_* and _SC_* constants.
 Looks like you found an independent defect.

> 
> I could see the definition of SIGSTKSZ being changed to the static minimum a particular processor requires, or is initially allocated as a 'safe' amount, rather than static "default size", and moving SIGSTKSZ to <limits.h>. This would contrast to MINSIGSTKSZ as the lowest value for a platform for all supported processors. Then an application could use sysconf() to query for the maximum size the configuration supports if it wants to use more than that, as a runtime increasable limit.

As I understand it, the concern in glibc is less about runtime
increasability, so much as ABI compatibility with applications compiled
against older headers at a time when the kernel had less state
information to store during a context switch.

-- 
Eric Blake, Principal Software Engineer
Red Hat, Inc.           +1-919-301-3226
Virtualization:  qemu.org | libvirt.org


  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-03-09 19:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <832918739.1734727.1615306471320.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
2021-03-09 16:14 ` shwaresyst
2021-03-09 19:33   ` Paul Eggert
2021-03-09 19:34   ` Eric Blake [this message]
2021-03-09 20:12     ` Eric Blake
     [not found] <1569476484.1894162.1615325397167.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
2021-03-09 21:29 ` shwaresyst
2021-03-09 23:58   ` H.J. Lu
     [not found] <1841269.IEpri3ZHvQ@omega>
2021-03-09 15:23 ` Eric Blake
2021-03-09 15:26   ` Andreas Schwab
2021-03-09 15:48     ` Eric Blake
2021-03-09 19:58       ` Bruno Haible
2021-03-09 21:05         ` H.J. Lu
     [not found]         ` <20210309211735.GW19922@dragon.sl.home>
2021-03-16 19:46           ` Carol Bouchard
2021-03-26 12:46             ` Carol Bouchard
2021-03-09 15:46   ` Zack Weinberg

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