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From: Adhemerval Zanella Netto <adhemerval.zanella@linaro.org>
To: Noah Goldstein <goldstein.w.n@gmail.com>
Cc: libc-alpha@sourceware.org, "H . J . Lu" <hjl.tools@gmail.com>,
	Sajan Karumanchi <sajan.karumanchi@gmail.com>,
	bmerry@sarao.ac.za, pmallapp@amd.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/3] x86: Fix Zen3/Zen4 ERMS selection (BZ 30994)
Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2024 15:06:50 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <c81be6fc-36e8-4bd9-9a4a-e74795e4d402@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFUsyf+CMX0CaP=7NTCGzNw7dg_+DRhSh6ygpch-yDEf5ur5hg@mail.gmail.com>



On 07/02/24 14:39, Noah Goldstein wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 7, 2024 at 12:10 PM Adhemerval Zanella Netto
> <adhemerval.zanella@linaro.org> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On 06/02/24 15:36, Noah Goldstein wrote:
>>> On Tue, Feb 6, 2024 at 5:43 PM Adhemerval Zanella
>>> <adhemerval.zanella@linaro.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The REP MOVSB usage on memcpy/memmove does not show much performance
>>>> improvement on Zen3/Zen4 cores compared to the vectorized loops.  Also,
>>>> as from BZ 30994, if the source is aligned and the destination is not
>>>> the performance can be 20x slower.
>>>>
>>>> The performance difference is noticeable with small buffer sizes, closer
>>>> to the lower bounds limits when memcpy/memmove starts to use ERMS.  The
>>>> performance of REP MOVSB is similar to vectorized instruction on the
>>>> size limit (the L2 cache).  Also, there is no drawback to multiple cores
>>>> sharing the cache.
>>>>
>>>> A new tunable, glibc.cpu.x86_rep_movsb_stop_threshold, allows to set up
>>>> the higher bound size to use 'rep movsb'.
>>>>
>>>> Checked on x86_64-linux-gnu on Zen3.
>>>> ---
>>>>  manual/tunables.texi         |  9 +++++++
>>>>  sysdeps/x86/dl-cacheinfo.h   | 50 +++++++++++++++++++++---------------
>>>>  sysdeps/x86/dl-tunables.list | 10 ++++++++
>>>>  3 files changed, 48 insertions(+), 21 deletions(-)
>>>>
>>>> diff --git a/manual/tunables.texi b/manual/tunables.texi
>>>> index be97190d67..ee5d90b91b 100644
>>>> --- a/manual/tunables.texi
>>>> +++ b/manual/tunables.texi
>>>> @@ -569,6 +569,15 @@ greater than zero, and currently defaults to 2048 bytes.
>>>>  This tunable is specific to i386 and x86-64.
>>>>  @end deftp
>>>>
>>>> +@deftp Tunable glibc.cpu.x86_rep_movsb_stop_threshold
>>>> +The @code{glibc.cpu.x86_rep_movsb_threshold} tunable allows the user to
>>>> +set the threshold in bytes to stop using "rep movsb".  The value must be
>>>> +greater than zero, and currently, the default depends on the CPU and the
>>>> +cache size.
>>>> +
>>>> +This tunable is specific to i386 and x86-64.
>>>> +@end deftp
>>>> +
>>>>  @deftp Tunable glibc.cpu.x86_rep_stosb_threshold
>>>>  The @code{glibc.cpu.x86_rep_stosb_threshold} tunable allows the user to
>>>>  set threshold in bytes to start using "rep stosb".  The value must be
>>>> diff --git a/sysdeps/x86/dl-cacheinfo.h b/sysdeps/x86/dl-cacheinfo.h
>>>> index d5101615e3..74b804c5e6 100644
>>>> --- a/sysdeps/x86/dl-cacheinfo.h
>>>> +++ b/sysdeps/x86/dl-cacheinfo.h
>>>> @@ -791,7 +791,6 @@ dl_init_cacheinfo (struct cpu_features *cpu_features)
>>>>    long int data = -1;
>>>>    long int shared = -1;
>>>>    long int shared_per_thread = -1;
>>>> -  long int core = -1;
>>>>    unsigned int threads = 0;
>>>>    unsigned long int level1_icache_size = -1;
>>>>    unsigned long int level1_icache_linesize = -1;
>>>> @@ -809,7 +808,6 @@ dl_init_cacheinfo (struct cpu_features *cpu_features)
>>>>    if (cpu_features->basic.kind == arch_kind_intel)
>>>>      {
>>>>        data = handle_intel (_SC_LEVEL1_DCACHE_SIZE, cpu_features);
>>>> -      core = handle_intel (_SC_LEVEL2_CACHE_SIZE, cpu_features);
>>>>        shared = handle_intel (_SC_LEVEL3_CACHE_SIZE, cpu_features);
>>>>        shared_per_thread = shared;
>>>>
>>>> @@ -822,7 +820,8 @@ dl_init_cacheinfo (struct cpu_features *cpu_features)
>>>>         = handle_intel (_SC_LEVEL1_DCACHE_ASSOC, cpu_features);
>>>>        level1_dcache_linesize
>>>>         = handle_intel (_SC_LEVEL1_DCACHE_LINESIZE, cpu_features);
>>>> -      level2_cache_size = core;
>>>> +      level2_cache_size
>>>> +       = handle_intel (_SC_LEVEL2_CACHE_SIZE, cpu_features);
>>>>        level2_cache_assoc
>>>>         = handle_intel (_SC_LEVEL2_CACHE_ASSOC, cpu_features);
>>>>        level2_cache_linesize
>>>> @@ -835,12 +834,12 @@ dl_init_cacheinfo (struct cpu_features *cpu_features)
>>>>        level4_cache_size
>>>>         = handle_intel (_SC_LEVEL4_CACHE_SIZE, cpu_features);
>>>>
>>>> -      get_common_cache_info (&shared, &shared_per_thread, &threads, core);
>>>> +      get_common_cache_info (&shared, &shared_per_thread, &threads,
>>>> +                            level2_cache_size);
>>>>      }
>>>>    else if (cpu_features->basic.kind == arch_kind_zhaoxin)
>>>>      {
>>>>        data = handle_zhaoxin (_SC_LEVEL1_DCACHE_SIZE);
>>>> -      core = handle_zhaoxin (_SC_LEVEL2_CACHE_SIZE);
>>>>        shared = handle_zhaoxin (_SC_LEVEL3_CACHE_SIZE);
>>>>        shared_per_thread = shared;
>>>>
>>>> @@ -849,19 +848,19 @@ dl_init_cacheinfo (struct cpu_features *cpu_features)
>>>>        level1_dcache_size = data;
>>>>        level1_dcache_assoc = handle_zhaoxin (_SC_LEVEL1_DCACHE_ASSOC);
>>>>        level1_dcache_linesize = handle_zhaoxin (_SC_LEVEL1_DCACHE_LINESIZE);
>>>> -      level2_cache_size = core;
>>>> +      level2_cache_size = handle_zhaoxin (_SC_LEVEL2_CACHE_SIZE);
>>>>        level2_cache_assoc = handle_zhaoxin (_SC_LEVEL2_CACHE_ASSOC);
>>>>        level2_cache_linesize = handle_zhaoxin (_SC_LEVEL2_CACHE_LINESIZE);
>>>>        level3_cache_size = shared;
>>>>        level3_cache_assoc = handle_zhaoxin (_SC_LEVEL3_CACHE_ASSOC);
>>>>        level3_cache_linesize = handle_zhaoxin (_SC_LEVEL3_CACHE_LINESIZE);
>>>>
>>>> -      get_common_cache_info (&shared, &shared_per_thread, &threads, core);
>>>> +      get_common_cache_info (&shared, &shared_per_thread, &threads,
>>>> +                            level2_cache_size);
>>>>      }
>>>>    else if (cpu_features->basic.kind == arch_kind_amd)
>>>>      {
>>>>        data = handle_amd (_SC_LEVEL1_DCACHE_SIZE);
>>>> -      core = handle_amd (_SC_LEVEL2_CACHE_SIZE);
>>>>        shared = handle_amd (_SC_LEVEL3_CACHE_SIZE);
>>>>
>>>>        level1_icache_size = handle_amd (_SC_LEVEL1_ICACHE_SIZE);
>>>> @@ -869,7 +868,7 @@ dl_init_cacheinfo (struct cpu_features *cpu_features)
>>>>        level1_dcache_size = data;
>>>>        level1_dcache_assoc = handle_amd (_SC_LEVEL1_DCACHE_ASSOC);
>>>>        level1_dcache_linesize = handle_amd (_SC_LEVEL1_DCACHE_LINESIZE);
>>>> -      level2_cache_size = core;
>>>> +      level2_cache_size = handle_amd (_SC_LEVEL2_CACHE_SIZE);;
>>>>        level2_cache_assoc = handle_amd (_SC_LEVEL2_CACHE_ASSOC);
>>>>        level2_cache_linesize = handle_amd (_SC_LEVEL2_CACHE_LINESIZE);
>>>>        level3_cache_size = shared;
>>>> @@ -880,12 +879,12 @@ dl_init_cacheinfo (struct cpu_features *cpu_features)
>>>>        if (shared <= 0)
>>>>          {
>>>>             /* No shared L3 cache.  All we have is the L2 cache.  */
>>>> -           shared = core;
>>>> +           shared = level2_cache_size;
>>>>          }
>>>>        else if (cpu_features->basic.family < 0x17)
>>>>          {
>>>>             /* Account for exclusive L2 and L3 caches.  */
>>>> -           shared += core;
>>>> +           shared += level2_cache_size;
>>>>          }
>>>>
>>>>        shared_per_thread = shared;
>>>> @@ -1028,16 +1027,25 @@ dl_init_cacheinfo (struct cpu_features *cpu_features)
>>>>                            SIZE_MAX);
>>>>
>>>>    unsigned long int rep_movsb_stop_threshold;
>>>> -  /* ERMS feature is implemented from AMD Zen3 architecture and it is
>>>> -     performing poorly for data above L2 cache size. Henceforth, adding
>>>> -     an upper bound threshold parameter to limit the usage of Enhanced
>>>> -     REP MOVSB operations and setting its value to L2 cache size.  */
>>>> -  if (cpu_features->basic.kind == arch_kind_amd)
>>>> -    rep_movsb_stop_threshold = core;
>>>> -  /* Setting the upper bound of ERMS to the computed value of
>>>> -     non-temporal threshold for architectures other than AMD.  */
>>>> -  else
>>>> -    rep_movsb_stop_threshold = non_temporal_threshold;
>>>> +  /* If the tunable is set and with a valid value (larger than the minimal
>>>> +     threshold to use ERMS) use it instead of default values.  */
>>>> +  rep_movsb_stop_threshold = TUNABLE_GET (x86_rep_movsb_stop_threshold,
>>>> +                                         long int, NULL);
>>>> +  if (!TUNABLE_IS_INITIALIZED (x86_rep_movsb_stop_threshold)
>>>> +      || rep_movsb_stop_threshold <= rep_movsb_threshold)
>>>> +    {
>>>> +      /* For AMD CPUs that support ERMS (Zen3+), REP MOVSB is in a lot of
>>>> +        cases slower than the vectorized path (and for some alignments,
>>>> +        it is really slow, check BZ #30994).  */
>>>> +      if (cpu_features->basic.kind == arch_kind_amd)
>>>> +       rep_movsb_stop_threshold = 0;
>>> note that if `size >= rep_movsb_threshold && size >= rep_movsb_stop_threshold`
>>> we will use NT stores, not temporal stores.
>>>
>>> Id think you would want this to be setting the
>>> `rep_movsb_threshold` -> `non_temporal_threshold`
>>> which would essentially disable `rep movsb` but continue to
>>> use the other tunables for temporal/non-temporal decisions.
>>
>> My understanding is it will keep using non temporal stores, for instance
>> with a size equal to 25165824 (x86.cpu_features.non_temporal_threshold)
>> the code will:
>>
>> sysdeps/x86_64/multiarch/memmove-vec-unaligned-erms.S
>>
>> 384 #if defined USE_MULTIARCH && IS_IN (libc)
>> 385 L(movsb_more_2x_vec):
>> 386         cmp     __x86_rep_movsb_threshold(%rip), %RDX_LP
>> 387         ja      L(movsb)
>>
>>
>> And then:
>>
>> 613         /* If above __x86_rep_movsb_stop_threshold most likely is
>> 614            candidate for NT moves as well.  */
>> 615         cmp     __x86_rep_movsb_stop_threshold(%rip), %RDX_LP
>> 616         jae     L(large_memcpy_2x_check)
>>
>> And then skipping 'rep movsb' altogether.  And it will check whether
>> to use temporal stores:
>>
>> 683 L(large_memcpy_2x):
>> 684         mov     __x86_shared_non_temporal_threshold(%rip), %R11_LP
>> 685         cmp     %R11_LP, %RDX_LP
>> 686         jb      L(more_8x_vec_check)
>>
> 
> Ah you're right, forgot about that code!
> 
> 
>>
>> Maybe one options would to set rep_movsb_stop_threshold to rep_movsb_threshold,
>> it slight clear that the range to use ERMS is a 0 size internal.
> So never use `rep movsb`?
> If that where the case, I would just set `rep_movsb_threshold` to
> `non_temporal_threshold`
> as the default.

It works as well, it is essentially the same as setting rep_movsb_threshold to
rep_movsb_stop_threshold.


  reply	other threads:[~2024-02-07 18:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-02-06 17:43 [PATCH v2 0/3] x86: Improve ERMS usage on Zen3+ Adhemerval Zanella
2024-02-06 17:43 ` [PATCH v2 1/3] x86: Fix Zen3/Zen4 ERMS selection (BZ 30994) Adhemerval Zanella
2024-02-06 18:36   ` Noah Goldstein
2024-02-07 12:10     ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2024-02-07 17:39       ` Noah Goldstein
2024-02-07 18:06         ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto [this message]
2024-02-07 18:10           ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2024-02-07 22:07             ` Noah Goldstein
2024-02-09 10:59               ` Karumanchi, Sajan
2024-02-06 17:43 ` [PATCH v2 2/3] x86: Do not prefer ERMS for memset on Zen3+ Adhemerval Zanella
2024-02-06 19:01   ` Noah Goldstein
2024-02-07 12:14     ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2024-02-06 17:43 ` [PATCH v2 3/3] x86: Expand the comment on when REP STOSB is used on memset Adhemerval Zanella

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