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[198.84.214.74]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id p187sm2283222qkd.101.2021.09.22.10.59.07 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 22 Sep 2021 10:59:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2021 13:59:06 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/91.1.0 To: libc-alpha From: Carlos O'Donell Subject: Linux Plumbers Conference: GNU Tools Track: glibc BoF (notes) Organization: Red Hat X-Mimecast-Spam-Score: 0 X-Mimecast-Originator: redhat.com Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH, DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU, DKIM_VALID_EF, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2, SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_NONE, TXREP autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on server2.sourceware.org X-BeenThere: libc-alpha@sourceware.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Libc-alpha mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2021 17:59:13 -0000 2021-09-22: glibc BoF at the GNU Tools track at Linux Plumbers Conference. https://linuxplumbersconf.org/event/11/contributions/1019/ I spoke briefly about: Upcoming release: glibc 2.35 relase on February 1st 2022. Open topics? Patch review: Retrospective on 10 months of patch queue review? Patch review: How do we make consensus easier for patch review and commit? Feature: Are we ready for the ppc64le long double change in downstream? CI/CD: Status of patchwork CI/CD? - format.useAutoBase came up. These are my notes from the BoF. Feature: Are we ready for the ppc64le long double change in downstream? - libgfortran needs to be discussed for ppc64le to transition to long double. - Jonathan Wakely: Open libstdc++ bug that needs fixing. Patch review: Retrospective on 10 months of patch queue review? - We aren't making through the patch review. - Are we making it through the patch queue. - Refocus on the queue for review. **** Frangrui Song: Will glibc be happy with Clang buildability? - Carlos: Yes, we could be happy with clang buildability. - Florian: We may need nested functions to get away from relocations in bootstrap. - Joseph: Patches should be split into logical changes. Joseph Myers: Could we do better bugzilla triage? - Bug queue review is a process. - Yes, we need to clean up our process and do something weekly. - Segher: gcc hooks to log commits against bugs help. - Carlos: The switch to the adacore hooks broke this. Fix this. **** - Michael: Keep the bug open until I do the backport. - Patrick: Put a comment in the bug when you're going to move the bug downstream. - Florian: Needs to close the bugs for the NEWS file generation logic. Jeff Law: Explicit loader invocations result in different memory layout. - Florian: Yes, it's a kernel issue, and ASLR defaults impact this. - We have seen this in the past. - More explicit loader invocations will happen because env-vars have their own issues. - Changes in memory layout should not impact things due to ASLR. Florian Weimer: Mailing list and from rewriting - Annoying issues with git-am and patchwork. - Formal request for a change in configuration via overseers. - Nick Alcock: The rule is don't change anything. - The only way to avoid from rewriting is to allow all email. - Refuse mail that contains html? Troublesome dropped email that they are rejected. - Send back an SMTP rejection code, and bouncing is a source of spray (problem). - Spam? Handled by spam filtering. - Overseers: Request to stop rewriting email, and allow all email to the list. - Mark: Talk to Frank and cgf. - Can you use b4 with libc-alpha? - Yes, if you can point b4 at libc-alpha on public-inbo -- Cheers, Carlos.