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From: Adhemerval Zanella Netto <adhemerval.zanella@linaro.org>
To: "Cristian Rodríguez" <cristian@rodriguez.im>
Cc: Wilco Dijkstra <Wilco.Dijkstra@arm.com>,
	GNU C Library <libc-alpha@sourceware.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] Add single-threaded fast path to rand()
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2024 11:27:25 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ddc55095-8ca2-41f9-b647-2d3fde02714a@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPBLoAdYdzN6ML7FZ=9TUn2_-2z91MOETfsx3ZB5Jxpj6U3j7Q@mail.gmail.com>



On 20/03/24 11:18, Cristian Rodríguez wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 20, 2024 at 9:31 AM Adhemerval Zanella Netto
> <adhemerval.zanella@linaro.org> wrote:
> 
> 
>> I don't have a strong opinion on this rand patch, if this idea is to
>> have it as an workbench for a possible single-thread lock optimization
>> it should be fine.  It is just that I don't see much gain in optimizing
>> such a bad interface (although we still lack a proper userland PRNG).
> 
> Yeah, it should be no surprise this interfaces are bad,
> I thought this was common knowledge.
> 
> we need something like https://github.com/C2SP/C2SP/blob/main/chacha8rand.md
> which prety much outperforms even non-CS algorithms in at least 64 bit x86.
> but the question of the state remains.global? TLS? how to discard it
> in all the appropriate occasions?

And this is the arc4random in userspace discussion all over again.

  reply	other threads:[~2024-03-20 14:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-03-18 15:20 Wilco Dijkstra
2024-03-18 19:24 ` Cristian Rodríguez
2024-03-19 15:44   ` Wilco Dijkstra
2024-03-20 12:31     ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2024-03-20 14:18       ` Cristian Rodríguez
2024-03-20 14:27         ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto [this message]
2024-03-21  7:39           ` Florian Weimer
2024-03-21 13:33             ` Cristian Rodríguez
2024-03-21 14:35               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-03-21 15:07                 ` Szabolcs Nagy
2024-03-21 15:18                   ` Wilco Dijkstra
2024-03-21 15:53               ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2024-03-22 14:27                 ` Zack Weinberg
2024-03-22 14:46                   ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2024-03-22 15:30                     ` Zack Weinberg
2024-03-22 18:05                       ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2024-03-22 19:47                         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-03-22 22:54                           ` Cristian Rodríguez
2024-03-23 14:01                           ` Zack Weinberg
2024-03-23 15:23                             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-03-25 14:09                               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-03-25 17:52                                 ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2024-03-24  0:59                             ` Cristian Rodríguez
2024-03-25  6:44                             ` Florian Weimer
2024-03-20 14:28         ` Wilco Dijkstra
2024-03-20 14:40           ` Xi Ruoyao
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2023-11-28 17:37 Wilco Dijkstra

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