From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail.fsf.org (mail.fsf.org [IPv6:2001:470:142::13]) by sourceware.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7F2FC3857C77 for ; Fri, 2 Jul 2021 22:23:44 +0000 (GMT) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.4.1 sourceware.org 7F2FC3857C77 Received: from jumpgate.fsf.org ([74.94.156.211]:36106 helo=[172.16.0.69]) by mail.fsf.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lzRZX-0007XS-Rh for libc-alpha@sourceware.org; Fri, 02 Jul 2021 18:23:43 -0400 To: libc-alpha@sourceware.org From: Craig Topham Subject: Re: Seeking input from developers: glibc copyright assignment policy. 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Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Icedove/68.10.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Language: en-US X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU, DKIM_VALID_EF, FAKE_REPLY_A1, HTML_MESSAGE, SPF_HELO_PASS, SPF_PASS, TXREP autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on server2.sourceware.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: libc-alpha@sourceware.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Libc-alpha mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Jul 2021 22:23:45 -0000 >>>/From: Florian Weimer >= />>>/Cc: Siddhesh Poyarekar >, Eli Zaretskii > />>>/Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2021 09:24:51 +0200 />>>//>= >>/* Eli Zaretskii via Libc-alpha: />>>//>>>/> I'm showing text from the = assignment agreement that IMO clearly says />>>/> the developer retains a= ll the rights. />>>//>>>/No, the developer gives up copyright ownership. = />>//>>/I don't understand what that means, sorry. The text says I can do= />>/anything and everything I want with the code, except interfering wit= h />>/the FSF's use of that code. So what exactly did I give up? / > Ownership, that is, you don't control anymore who gets to use the code > and under what terms. The grant back in section 1 (d) of the FSF's copyright assignment gives control to the developer who can then decide who gets to use the code and under what terms, but the developer cannot limit how the FSF distributes and uses the code, which is under a free license, most likely the GPLv3 or later. ~Craig