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Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.10.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <87blcbx91u.fsf@oldenburg.str.redhat.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.5 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU, DKIM_VALID_EF, NICE_REPLY_A, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_PASS, TXREP autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on server2.sourceware.org X-BeenThere: libc-alpha@sourceware.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Libc-alpha mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2021 12:43:34 -0000 On 23/02/2021 09:28, Florian Weimer wrote: > * Adhemerval Zanella via Libc-alpha: > >> Afaik this is true for every other architecture that uses libgcc for >> backtrace implementation, currently *everything* but powerpc and >> microblaze: >> >> This is on aarch64 with gcc 5.4: >> >> $ gcc -g0 -fno-asynchronous-unwind-tables backtrace.c -o backtrace >> $ ./backtrace 3 >> backtrace() returned 1 addresses >> ./backtrace() [0x4009dc] >> >> And this is sparc64 with gcc-10: >> >> $ gcc -g0 -fno-asynchronous-unwind-tables backtrace.c -o backtrace >> $ ./backtrace 3 >> backtrace() returned 1 addresses >> ./backtrace(+0xa74) [0x10000000a74] >> >> So for all other architectures we require -fasynchronous-unwind-tables >> to get backtrace work and I plan to remove microblaze implementation >> so powerpc will be only outlier. > > GCC's defaults matter as well, I think. If GCC defaults to unwind > tables (is -funwind-tables sufficient?), then the libgcc_s unwinder will > work for default builds. I think -funwind-tables is not suffice on some architectures to unwind through signal handlers. > > The libgcc_s unwinder may also have custom backchain logic for some > targets, I haven't checked. This a point to actually use libgcc instead of using custom implementations on glibc. > > Part of the challenge here is whether people consider unwind tables or > frame pointers part of the ABI. There doesn't seem to be consensus, > even for Linux targets (I think people on the musl side dislike the > tables). My view is glibc should not need to handle it, my point is use what compiler already provide as a unwinder solution so we don't need to handle all possible ABI variations and extensions that compiler or use might use. The backtrace originally was just a slim wrapper over libgcc and musl does not like because it does not provide bracktrace and it is aiming to be a lightweight solution (and -f*unwind-tables does generate a lot of additional information).