From: Adhemerval Zanella Netto <adhemerval.zanella@linaro.org>
To: Paul Zimmermann <Paul.Zimmermann@inria.fr>,
Joseph Myers <josmyers@redhat.com>
Cc: libc-alpha@sourceware.org, vincenzo.innocente@cern.ch,
riemannic@gmail.com, johnmather@sidefx.com
Subject: Re: Accuracy of Mathematical Functions
Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2024 09:54:37 -0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ebcb5e08-0c56-4952-a107-c8b1872cf621@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <p9u01q2yyuua.fsf@coriandre.loria.fr>
On 09/08/24 05:16, Paul Zimmermann wrote:
> Dear Joseph,
>
>> Thanks. Some further comments on the document (some of which I may have
>> made before):
>>
>> * The bug referenced as a reason for not testing other rounding modes was
>> fixed long ago, results in other rounding modes would be interesting as
>> well (they would of course make the document longer), and worst-case
>> inputs for other rounding modes would be worth adding to the glibc tests.
>
> in the next update we'll point out that these disastrous results with
> other rounding modes were in the past. Surely results with other rounding modes
> would be interesting, volunteers to implement that are welcome!
>
> I did a quick test with exp and GNU libc 2.40:
>
> -0x1.49f33ad2c1c58p+9, /* GNU libc 0.510359 */
> -0x1.9df9aecc00001p-29, /* GNU libc RNDZ 1.24399 */
> 0x1.50f5a68c91c18p-1, /* GNU libc RNDU 1.01597 */
> -0x1.9df9aecc00001p-29, /* GNU libc RNDD 1.24399 */
>
>> * I don't think "dummy implementations" is a useful description for
>> implementations that do actually implement the function (within a few
>> ulp). There are many possible ways to implement a function, including
>> building on other functions, and those ones are optimized for getting the
>> APIs into glibc for all supported formats rather than for speed or
>> accuracy (and replacing by faster, more accurate implementations for
>> particular formats is welcome).
>
> agreed, maybe "trivial" would be more accurate. By the way, if one wants
> to replace say exp10m1f by a more accurate version, what are the steps to
> follow?
The exp10m1 should be easier because there is no arch-specific implementation.
I think it would be easier as add a sysdeps/ieee754/flt-32/s_exp10m1.c
one with the same semantics as the template one. I can help you out if need.
>
>> * As previously mentioned, I still think it would be of interest to see
>> such data for complex functions (a function with one complex argument and
>> a complex result is effectively two bivariate real functions.
>
> we also got similar feedback for complex functions. Indeed I believe one might
> have surprises, even for basic operations since there is no standard. But
> again, time is limited, and volunteers are welcome! (This might be a different
> document, testing less libraries, and updated less often.)
>
> Paul
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Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-08-06 12:24 Paul Zimmermann
2024-08-06 15:27 ` Joseph Myers
2024-08-07 10:37 ` Paul Zimmermann
2024-08-08 16:35 ` Joseph Myers
2024-08-09 8:16 ` Paul Zimmermann
2024-08-09 12:54 ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto [this message]
2024-08-09 15:57 ` Joseph Myers
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2022-02-11 18:23 ` Joseph Myers
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