From: Stefan Liebler <stli@linux.ibm.com>
To: Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>,
"Lucas A. M. Magalhaes" <lamm@linux.ibm.com>
Cc: Stefan Liebler via Libc-alpha <libc-alpha@sourceware.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Loosen the limits of time/tst-cpuclock1.
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2020 18:10:29 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <f006f423-14fc-9251-cb13-f30107275fac@linux.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87r1rnhsxx.fsf@oldenburg2.str.redhat.com>
On 8/31/20 2:59 PM, Florian Weimer wrote:
> * Lucas A. M. Magalhaes:
>
>> Quoting Florian Weimer via Libc-alpha (2020-08-28 09:29:45)
>>> * Stefan Liebler via Libc-alpha:
>>>
>>>> Starting with the commit 04deeaa9ea74b0679dfc9d9155a37b6425f19a9f "Fix
>>>> time/tst-cpuclock1 intermitent failures" (2020-07-11), this test fails
>>>> quite often on s390x/s390 with one/multiple of those: "before - after"
>>>> / "nanosleep time" / "dead - after" ourside reasonable range.
>>>
>>> How much value do these cpuclock tests actually have? Maybe we should
>>> just remove them, given that their test objective is so difficult to
>>> model in current execution environments.
>>
>> AFAICS this test was moved from rt/ to time/ when the clock_* functions
>> were migrated to libc.so. IMHO this test lost it's purpose during this
>> migration. I can see why it was needed on rt/, with strict time
>> measures, but on time/ it's just testing clock_* API. I this case I don't
>> see a downside to flex the time requirements.
>
> The location in the tree does not impact the test objectives. The move
> was done to reflect that for quite a few releases now, clock_gettime
> has been provided by libc, not librt.
>
>>> Maybe we could measure clock discontinuities on the CPU-burning thread
>>> and detect CPU stealing this way. But I'm not sure if this would be
>>> worth it.
>>
>> What we want to achieve with this?
>
> I think the goal is to ensure that glibc and the kernel agree about the
> definition of the clocks, i.e. that the clock is indeed a CPU time clock
> and does not measure wall-clock time.
>
> Thanks,
> Florian
>
Thanks for your comments.
How do we want to proceed here:
- Shall we just loosen the limits?
- Shall we remove the whole test?
- Shall we remove only the first check which compares nanosleep vs
clock_gettime (child_clock, before|after)?
Bye.
Stefan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-09-02 16:10 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-08-28 8:58 Stefan Liebler
2020-08-28 12:29 ` Florian Weimer
2020-08-31 12:57 ` Lucas A. M. Magalhaes
2020-08-31 12:59 ` Florian Weimer
2020-09-02 16:10 ` Stefan Liebler [this message]
2020-09-21 11:28 ` Florian Weimer
2020-09-29 13:53 ` Lucas A. M. Magalhaes
2020-09-29 14:01 ` Adhemerval Zanella
2020-09-29 17:22 ` Carlos O'Donell
2020-09-30 11:48 ` Adhemerval Zanella
2020-10-19 14:48 ` Stefan Liebler
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