From: Carlos O'Donell <carlos@redhat.com>
To: Paul Zimmermann <Paul.Zimmermann@inria.fr>, libc-alpha@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: correctly rounded mathematical functions
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2022 17:12:40 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <f19641ca-b47f-3e97-3c23-ef1b2d9b6d6d@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <mwfsq5ouii.fsf@tomate.loria.fr>
On 1/3/22 07:48, Paul Zimmermann wrote:
> The current C working draft [1, p392] has reserved names for correctly
> rounded functions (cr_exp, cr_log, cr_sin, ...).
>
> We propose to add such correctly rounded functions to the GNU libc,
> for the three IEEE formats (binary32, binary64, binary128) and the
> "extended double" format (long double on x86_64).
>
> These implementations should be correctly rounded for all rounding modes,
> for example one could do the following to emulate interval arithmetic:
>
> fesetround (FE_DOWNWARD);
> y_lo = cr_exp (x_lo);
> fesetround (FE_UPWARD);
> y_hi = cr_exp (x_hi);
>
> These functions will not replace the current functions (exp, log, sin, ...).
> Users who want a fast implementation will call the exp/log/sin/... functions,
> users who want a correctly rounded function and thus reproducible results
> (whatever the hardware, compiler or operating system) will use the
> cr_exp/cr_log/cr_sin/... functions. Our goal is nevertheless to get the
> best performance possible, and in some cases our implementation outperforms
> the GNU libc one.
>
> We have started to work on two functions (cbrt and acos), for which we
> provide presumably correctly rounded implementations (up to the knowledge
> of hard-to-round cases) [2]. [These implementations do replace the current
> glibc ones, since it was simpler to demonstrate our skills.]
>
> Christoph Lauter
> Jean-Michel Muller
> Alexei Sibidanov
> Paul Zimmermann
In general I think correctly rounded functions are something we would want to support.
For a very long time we've considered that there are really 3 sets of users:
(a) Loosely correct answers provided quickly (high ULPs errors allowed, >9 ULPs)
(b) Correct answers (no errors >9 ULPs)
(c) Correctly rounded answers (0 ULPs)
Note: Rounding modes matter.
To date we have been removing the mutli-precision fallback paths and driving glibc's
implementation towards (b) where possible (with some IBM double-double exceptions).
I would like to have (c) included in glibc for selection at link-time depending on
the needs of the users, but as Joseph points out, the costs to maintenance are real
and need to be discussed.
> [1] http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg14/www/docs/n2596.pdf
> [2] https://homepages.loria.fr/PZimmermann/CORE-MATH/
>
--
Cheers,
Carlos.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-01-12 22:12 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-01-03 12:48 Paul Zimmermann
2022-01-04 19:15 ` Joseph Myers
2022-01-05 16:03 ` Paul Zimmermann
2022-01-05 18:44 ` Joseph Myers
2022-01-06 9:55 ` Paul Zimmermann
2022-01-12 22:17 ` Carlos O'Donell
2022-01-12 22:12 ` Carlos O'Donell [this message]
2022-01-13 5:00 ` Paul Zimmermann
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