From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from antelope.dogwood.relay.mailchannels.net (antelope.dogwood.relay.mailchannels.net [23.83.211.4]) by sourceware.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 285283858022 for ; Fri, 25 Jun 2021 09:44:16 +0000 (GMT) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.4.1 sourceware.org 285283858022 Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=gotplt.org Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=gotplt.org Received: from relay.mailchannels.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay.mailchannels.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 414763419C0; Fri, 25 Jun 2021 09:44:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a75.g.dreamhost.com (100-96-17-81.trex.outbound.svc.cluster.local [100.96.17.81]) (Authenticated sender: dreamhost) by relay.mailchannels.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id D5D0E3420E6; Fri, 25 Jun 2021 09:44:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a75.g.dreamhost.com (pop.dreamhost.com [64.90.62.162]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384) by 100.96.17.81 (trex/6.3.3); Fri, 25 Jun 2021 09:44:15 +0000 Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a75.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pdx1-sub0-mail-a75.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92BA18C382; Fri, 25 Jun 2021 02:44:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=gotplt.org; h=subject:from :to:cc:references:message-id:date:mime-version:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=gotplt.org; bh=sSsy5m 7aleE0iTKwTwbMxiLgl7c=; b=XirtAEud32QuNfDJaQIt1suUVAyRGGMqEkG8VT QsFqp7TndQFX6G+e0oo7V4h7qhleA9b4XxzwR/IhRjxDvCBZUShmbeg8PkB4FiAv XZB1yCRyiwo9Eite5nmLQmTxbZVKFHqNH0EW6QWyTMqVByAGZPlW6imw4+1Jq1q0 2ug68= Received: from [192.168.1.134] (unknown [1.186.101.110]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: siddhesh@gotplt.org) by pdx1-sub0-mail-a75.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 171748C37A; Fri, 25 Jun 2021 02:44:02 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Seeking input from developers: glibc copyright assignment policy. X-DH-BACKEND: pdx1-sub0-mail-a75 From: Siddhesh Poyarekar To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: libc-alpha@sourceware.org References: <4369849.fY2oj7UdlA@omega> <83sg17rrf6.fsf@gnu.org> <83k0misbni.fsf@gnu.org> <3e0c8f21-422b-ffd6-d939-49f88f09cac7@gotplt.org> <83fsx6s9so.fsf@gnu.org> <2619fea4-4fb4-84cf-b9d2-f1ef21d40bcb@gotplt.org> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2021 15:13:57 +0530 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.10.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <2619fea4-4fb4-84cf-b9d2-f1ef21d40bcb@gotplt.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3030.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU, DKIM_VALID_EF, NICE_REPLY_A, RCVD_IN_BARRACUDACENTRAL, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2, SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_PASS, TXREP autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on server2.sourceware.org X-BeenThere: libc-alpha@sourceware.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Libc-alpha mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2021 09:44:20 -0000 On 6/25/21 2:27 PM, Siddhesh Poyarekar wrote: > On 6/25/21 12:36 PM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> I don't see how the above means shared ownership.=C2=A0 My interpretat= ion >> is that the developer owns the changes, and the FSF owns the changes >> contributed to the project, but they each one own their separate copy >> separately and independently.=C2=A0 "Shared" means what one owner does >> affects the other, whereas in this case the text of the assignment >> explicitly says there's no such dependencies. >=20 > Fair enough, I can redact 'shared' to align with your interpretation=20 > because we're otherwise talking about the same thing.=C2=A0 It still do= esn't=20 > change the crux of my point, that it is perfectly reasonable for someon= e=20 > to be picky about who they assign copyright to. ... actually I should correct myself based on Florian's comment. The=20 copyright ownership does get transferred to the assignee and the=20 assigner is granted back an unhindered, unlimited *use* license. Siddhesh