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From: Sandra Loosemore <sloosemore@baylibre.com>
To: Mark Wielaard <mark@klomp.org>, overseers@sourceware.org
Cc: gcc@gcc.gnu.org, binutils@sourceware.org, gdb@sourceware.org,
	libc-alpha@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: Sourceware mitigating and preventing the next xz-backdoor
Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2024 13:54:19 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <fc3d8fe6-bfec-474d-a9ed-895067654603@baylibre.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240401150617.GF19478@gnu.wildebeest.org>

On 4/1/24 09:06, Mark Wielaard wrote:
> A big thanks to everybody working this long Easter weekend who helped
> analyze the xz-backdoor and making sure the impact on Sourceware and
> the hosted projects was minimal.
> 
> This email isn't about the xz-backdoor itself. Do see Sam James FAQ
> https://gist.github.com/thesamesam/223949d5a074ebc3dce9ee78baad9e27
> (Sorry for the github link, but this one does seem viewable without
> proprietary javascript)
> 
> We should discuss what we have been doing and should do more to
> mitigate and prevent the next xz-backdoor. There are a couple of
> Sourceware services that can help with that.
> 
> TLDR;
> - Replicatable isolated container/VMs are nice, we want more.
> - autoregen buildbots, it should be transparent (and automated) how to
>    regenerate build/source files.
> - Automate (snapshot) releases tarballs.
> - Reproducible releases (from git).
> 
> [snip]

While I appreciate the effort to harden the Sourceware infrastructure 
against malicious attacks and want to join in on thanking everyone who 
helped analyze this issue, to me it seems like the much bigger problem 
is that XZ had a maintainer who appears to have acted in bad faith.  Are 
the development processes used by the GNU toolchain components robust 
enough to cope with deliberate sabotage of the code base?  Do we have 
enough eyes available to ensure that every commit, even those by 
designated maintainers, is vetted by someone else?  Do we to harden our 
process, too, to require all patches to be signed off by someone else 
before committing?

-Sandra



  reply	other threads:[~2024-04-02 19:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-03-29 20:39 Security warning about xz library compromise Mark Wielaard
2024-04-01 15:06 ` Sourceware mitigating and preventing the next xz-backdoor Mark Wielaard
2024-04-02 19:54   ` Sandra Loosemore [this message]
2024-04-02 20:03     ` Paul Eggert
2024-04-02 20:20       ` Paul Koning
2024-04-02 20:28         ` Ian Lance Taylor
2024-04-03  6:26           ` Martin Uecker
2024-04-03 14:00             ` Michael Matz
2024-04-03 14:14               ` Paul Koning
2024-04-03 14:32               ` Martin Uecker
2024-04-03 14:46                 ` Jeffrey Walton
2024-04-03 16:02                 ` Michael Matz
2024-04-03 16:26                   ` Joel Sherrill
2024-04-03 16:32                   ` Martin Uecker
2024-04-03 16:51                 ` Andreas Schwab
2024-04-03 16:56                 ` Jonathan Wakely
2024-04-03 18:46               ` Jonathon Anderson
2024-04-03 19:01                 ` Martin Uecker
2024-04-05 21:15                   ` Andrew Sutton
2024-04-06 13:00                     ` Richard Biener
2024-04-06 15:59                       ` Martin Uecker
2024-04-04 13:59                 ` Michael Matz
2024-04-09 16:44                   ` anderson.jonathonm
2024-04-09 17:57                     ` Andreas Schwab
2024-04-09 19:59                       ` Jonathon Anderson
2024-04-09 20:11                         ` Paul Koning
2024-04-09 21:40                           ` Jeffrey Walton
2024-04-09 21:50                             ` Paul Eggert
2024-04-09 21:58                               ` Sam James
2024-04-09 22:15                                 ` Paul Eggert
2024-04-09 22:22                                   ` Sam James
2024-04-09 22:53                                     ` Paul Eggert
2024-04-09 22:03                               ` Jonathon Anderson
2024-04-09 22:10                                 ` Sam James
2024-04-09 21:54                           ` Jonathon Anderson
2024-04-09 22:00                             ` Sam James
2024-04-10 14:09                             ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2024-04-10 18:47                               ` Jonathon Anderson
2024-04-10 19:00                                 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2024-04-10 10:26                       ` Claudio Bantaloukas
2024-04-02 22:08     ` Guinevere Larsen
2024-04-02 22:50       ` Jeffrey Walton
2024-04-02 23:20       ` Mark Wielaard
2024-04-02 23:34       ` Paul Koning
2024-04-03  0:37         ` Jeffrey Walton
2024-04-03  8:08       ` Florian Weimer
2024-04-03 13:53         ` Joel Sherrill
2024-04-04 10:25           ` Mark Wielaard
2024-04-10 16:30           ` Alejandro Colomar
2024-04-21 15:30             ` Mark Wielaard
2024-04-21 20:40               ` Alejandro Colomar
2024-04-21 20:52                 ` Alejandro Colomar
2024-04-30 11:28                 ` Alejandro Colomar
2024-04-03 14:04         ` Tom Tromey
2024-04-03 14:42           ` Jeff Law
2024-04-04 10:48             ` Mark Wielaard

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