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From: Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@rivosinc.com>
To: fweimer@redhat.com, Evan Green <evan@rivosinc.com>
Cc: Jeff Law <jlaw@ventanamicro.com>, libc-alpha@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] build-many-glibcs: Add a RISC-V config with most of the B extensions
Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2023 09:39:14 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <mhng-a3a2cb96-3871-4769-83b5-f922e259c33f@palmer-ri-x1c9> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87a5ty9e3q.fsf@oldenburg.str.redhat.com>

On Thu, 07 Sep 2023 08:50:49 PDT (-0700), fweimer@redhat.com wrote:
> * Palmer Dabbelt:
>
>> On Wed, 06 Sep 2023 13:43:08 PDT (-0700), fweimer@redhat.com wrote:
>>> * Palmer Dabbelt:
>>>
>>>> +        self.add_config(arch='riscv64',
>>>> +                        os_name='linux-gnu',
>>>> +                        variant='rv64imafdcb-lp64d',
>>>> +                        gcc_cfg=['--with-arch=rv64imafdc_zba_zbb_zbs', '--with-abi=lp64d',
>>>> +                                 '--disable-multilib'])
>>>
>>> I doubt we need a separate GCC configuration, you should be able to use
>>> the existing compiler for that and just change the glibc build flags.
>>
>> Right now we're building a different GCC for each target, setting the
>> default arch at GCC configure time.  I agree that's super inefficient,
>> but it's what the other tagets do.  Sharing GCCs will also result in
>> mixing up things like libgcc, which is kind of a double-edged sword.
>
> It's more mixed, see the power4 variant of powerpc-linux-gnu for an
> example.

If I'm reading the script correctly, the power4 build is using the same 
GCC as the powerpc64 hardfloat build?  ie this one

        self.add_config(arch='powerpc64',
                        os_name='linux-gnu',
                        gcc_cfg=['--disable-multilib', '--enable-secureplt'])

I think we could do that for this configuration (reuse the rv64gc 
toolchain), we'd just end up with the libgcc cross-linking issues (which 
might even be a good thing, as distros will probably have rv64gc libgcc).

IIUC we'd need multilib support to get us down to a single GCC build, 
though.

>>> I expect we need some sort of version check because these flags are
>>> rather recent, right?  To what extend do they actually impact code
>>> generation for glibc?
>>
>> We've got two inline asm routines that use the B extensions (both Zbb):
>>
>> sysdeps/riscv/string-fza.h:#if defined __riscv_zbb || defined __riscv_xtheadbb
>> sysdeps/riscv/string-fzi.h:#if defined __riscv_zbb || defined __riscv_xtheadbb
>>
>> That's a pretty small diff, but it is code we're not testing -- not
>> sure if that's worth a whole test config, though.
>
> You can add IFUNCs and compile the affected string functions twice, then
> code *will* be compiled in a default build, revealing syntax and other
> errors.

+Evan, who's working on the IFUNC support.  I hadn't though of using 
that to test the assembly, but that seems like the best way to go -- not 
only will it sort out the testing issues, but users will go faster ;)

I think we're pretty close?

>> On the compiler side the B extensions have a pretty big impact on
>> codegen: they add a bunch of common bit manipulation patterns
>> (sign/zero extension, bit fields, C strings, etc).  None of that
>> should change the ABI, so in theory we should be safe if the GCC test
>> suite passes.  We do glibc builds as part of the GCC testing, but that
>> usually targets released glibc versions so stuff might slip through.
>
> Do the B extensions change the relocation footprint because they add new
> instruction encodes?  That's an area where we've sometimes encountered
> problems with changes in ISA baselines/compiler flags.

We don't have any new relocations for B, at least not yet -- they're all 
just register/register ops, so while one could imagine some addressing 
patterns that take advantage we don't have them yet.  So I think we're 
safe on that front.

>
> Thanks,
> Florian

  reply	other threads:[~2023-09-07 16:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-09-06 15:06 Palmer Dabbelt
2023-09-06 20:43 ` Florian Weimer
2023-09-07 15:24   ` Palmer Dabbelt
2023-09-07 15:50     ` Florian Weimer
2023-09-07 16:39       ` Palmer Dabbelt [this message]
2023-09-07 17:00         ` Evan Green
2023-09-07 17:05           ` Palmer Dabbelt

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