* [PATCH v3] Fix Country name for xh_ZA
[not found] <CGME20170817085421epcas5p10203f2ec829260f5e002a760fab5e045@epcas5p1.samsung.com>
@ 2017-08-17 8:54 ` Akhilesh Kumar
2017-08-17 9:07 ` Mike FABIAN
0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Akhilesh Kumar @ 2017-08-17 8:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: libc-alpha; +Cc: Akhilesh Kumar
[BZ #21959]
locales/xh_ZA: Fix country_name
---
localedata/locales/xh_ZA | 5 ++---
1 files changed, 2 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
diff --git a/localedata/locales/xh_ZA b/localedata/locales/xh_ZA
index e01a620..8fb69da 100644
--- a/localedata/locales/xh_ZA
+++ b/localedata/locales/xh_ZA
@@ -217,9 +217,8 @@ name_ms ""
END LC_NAME
LC_ADDRESS
-% Country name in Xhosa - "Mzantsi Afrika"
-country_name "<U004D><U007A><U0061><U006E><U0074><U0073><U0069><U0020>/
-<U0041><U0066><U0072><U0069><U006B><U0061>"
+% https://xh.wikipedia.org/wiki/UMzantsi_Afrika
+country_name "UMzantsi Afrika"
%
% Abbreviated country postal name - "ZA"
country_post "<U005A><U0041>"
--
1.7.1
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* Re: [PATCH v3] Fix Country name for xh_ZA
2017-08-17 8:54 ` [PATCH v3] Fix Country name for xh_ZA Akhilesh Kumar
@ 2017-08-17 9:07 ` Mike FABIAN
2017-08-17 10:02 ` Rafal Luzynski
0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Mike FABIAN @ 2017-08-17 9:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Akhilesh Kumar; +Cc: libc-alpha
Akhilesh Kumar <akhilesh.k@samsung.com> wrote:
> [BZ #21959]
> locales/xh_ZA: Fix country_name
>
> ---
> localedata/locales/xh_ZA | 5 ++---
> 1 files changed, 2 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
>
> diff --git a/localedata/locales/xh_ZA b/localedata/locales/xh_ZA
> index e01a620..8fb69da 100644
> --- a/localedata/locales/xh_ZA
> +++ b/localedata/locales/xh_ZA
> @@ -217,9 +217,8 @@ name_ms ""
> END LC_NAME
>
> LC_ADDRESS
> -% Country name in Xhosa - "Mzantsi Afrika"
> -country_name "<U004D><U007A><U0061><U006E><U0074><U0073><U0069><U0020>/
> -<U0041><U0066><U0072><U0069><U006B><U0061>"
> +% https://xh.wikipedia.org/wiki/UMzantsi_Afrika
> +country_name "UMzantsi Afrika"
> %
> % Abbreviated country postal name - "ZA"
> country_post "<U005A><U0041>"
committed.
--
Mike FABIAN <mfabian@redhat.com>
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* Re: [PATCH v3] Fix Country name for xh_ZA
2017-08-17 9:07 ` Mike FABIAN
@ 2017-08-17 10:02 ` Rafal Luzynski
2017-08-17 14:07 ` Mike FABIAN
0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Rafal Luzynski @ 2017-08-17 10:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Mike FABIAN, Akhilesh Kumar; +Cc: libc-alpha
17.08.2017 11:07 Mike FABIAN <mfabian@redhat.com> wrote:
>
>
> Akhilesh Kumar <akhilesh.k@samsung.com> wrote:
>
> > [BZ #21959]
> > locales/xh_ZA: Fix country_name
> >
> > ---
> > localedata/locales/xh_ZA | 5 ++---
> > 1 files changed, 2 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
> >
> > diff --git a/localedata/locales/xh_ZA b/localedata/locales/xh_ZA
> > index e01a620..8fb69da 100644
> > --- a/localedata/locales/xh_ZA
> > +++ b/localedata/locales/xh_ZA
> > @@ -217,9 +217,8 @@ name_ms ""
> > END LC_NAME
> >
> > LC_ADDRESS
> > -% Country name in Xhosa - "Mzantsi Afrika"
> > -country_name "<U004D><U007A><U0061><U006E><U0074><U0073><U0069><U0020>/
> > -<U0041><U0066><U0072><U0069><U006B><U0061>"
> > +% https://xh.wikipedia.org/wiki/UMzantsi_Afrika
> > +country_name "UMzantsi Afrika"
The same wiki article also contains "uMzantsi Afrika" as its title,
with the lowercase "u" despite it's in the beginning of a sentence.
At the same time, CLDR says "eMzantsi Afrika":
http://st.unicode.org/cldr-apps/v#/xh/T_Africa/
> > %
> > % Abbreviated country postal name - "ZA"
> > country_post "<U005A><U0041>"
>
> committed.
OK, let's leave it as it has been committed. I'm not telling this
is wrong, I'm telling that with the variety of versions I don't know
which is correct and it may be changed in future, for example if
a native speaker requests.
Regards,
Rafal
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* Re: [PATCH v3] Fix Country name for xh_ZA
2017-08-17 10:02 ` Rafal Luzynski
@ 2017-08-17 14:07 ` Mike FABIAN
[not found] ` <CGME20170817085421epcas5p10203f2ec829260f5e002a760fab5e045@epcms5p8>
0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Mike FABIAN @ 2017-08-17 14:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Rafal Luzynski; +Cc: Akhilesh Kumar, libc-alpha
Rafal Luzynski <digitalfreak@lingonborough.com> wrote:
> 17.08.2017 11:07 Mike FABIAN <mfabian@redhat.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Akhilesh Kumar <akhilesh.k@samsung.com> wrote:
>>
>> > [BZ #21959]
>> > locales/xh_ZA: Fix country_name
>> >
>> > ---
>> > localedata/locales/xh_ZA | 5 ++---
>> > 1 files changed, 2 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
>> >
>> > diff --git a/localedata/locales/xh_ZA b/localedata/locales/xh_ZA
>> > index e01a620..8fb69da 100644
>> > --- a/localedata/locales/xh_ZA
>> > +++ b/localedata/locales/xh_ZA
>> > @@ -217,9 +217,8 @@ name_ms ""
>> > END LC_NAME
>> >
>> > LC_ADDRESS
>> > -% Country name in Xhosa - "Mzantsi Afrika"
>> > -country_name "<U004D><U007A><U0061><U006E><U0074><U0073><U0069><U0020>/
>> > -<U0041><U0066><U0072><U0069><U006B><U0061>"
>> > +% https://xh.wikipedia.org/wiki/UMzantsi_Afrika
>> > +country_name "UMzantsi Afrika"
>
> The same wiki article also contains "uMzantsi Afrika" as its title,
> with the lowercase "u" despite it's in the beginning of a sentence.
> At the same time, CLDR says "eMzantsi Afrika":
>
> http://st.unicode.org/cldr-apps/v#/xh/T_Africa/
>
>> > %
>> > % Abbreviated country postal name - "ZA"
>> > country_post "<U005A><U0041>"
>>
>> committed.
>
> OK, let's leave it as it has been committed. I'm not telling this
> is wrong, I'm telling that with the variety of versions I don't know
> which is correct and it may be changed in future, for example if
> a native speaker requests.
Yes, it looks a bit difficult.
The CLDR value from the survey tool
http://st.unicode.org/cldr-apps/v#/xh/T_Africa/ is probably also
preliminary because there is no
http://www.unicode.org/repos/cldr/trunk/common/main/xh.xml yet.
--
Mike FABIAN <mfabian@redhat.com>
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* Re: [PATCH v3] Fix Country name for xh_ZA
[not found] ` <CGME20170817085421epcas5p10203f2ec829260f5e002a760fab5e045@epcms5p8>
@ 2017-08-18 3:54 ` AKHILESH KUMAR
[not found] ` <CAKCAbMhSHCe4zXh2C_mWP0P3BTWwiUOe0MvWW36R6XfvG4MAkg@mail.gmail.com>
0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: AKHILESH KUMAR @ 2017-08-18 3:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Zack Weinberg, Mike FABIAN, Rafal Luzynski; +Cc: libc-alpha
> As a general rule I don't think we should make changes based only on Wikipedia. Please at least check their references, and cite the primary source in the locale file.
I believe wiki page in locale language is more trusty (specific to locale information like Country name specific to that country, week, months for that locale etc ) then other sources.
Like locale page for indian language.
>> The same wiki article also contains "uMzantsi Afrika" as its title,
>> with the lowercase "u" despite it's in the beginning of a sentence.
>> At the same time, CLDR says "eMzantsi Afrika":
>> OK, let's leave it as it has been committed. I'm not telling this
> is wrong, I'm telling that with the variety of versions I don't know
> which is correct and it may be changed in future, for example if
> a native speaker requests.
> Yes, it looks a bit difficult.
> The CLDR value from the survey tool
> http://st.unicode.org/cldr-apps/v#/xh/T_Africa/ is probably also
> preliminary because there is no
> http://www.unicode.org/repos/cldr/trunk/common/main/xh.xml yet.
Akhilesh
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* Re: [PATCH v3] Fix Country name for xh_ZA
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@ 2017-08-18 16:21 ` Mike FABIAN
0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Mike FABIAN @ 2017-08-18 16:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Zack Weinberg; +Cc: Rafal Luzynski, akhilesh.k, libc-alpha
Zack Weinberg <zackw@panix.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 11:54 PM AKHILESH KUMAR <akhilesh.k@samsung.com>
> wrote:
>
>> > As a general rule I don't think we should make changes based only on
>> Wikipedia. Please at least check their references, and cite the primary
>> source in the locale file.
>>
>> I believe wiki page in locale language is more trusty (specific to locale
>> information like Country name specific to that country, week, months for
>> that locale etc ) then other sources.
>> Like locale page for indian language.
>
>
> I don't agree with that. Anyone can change anything on a Wikipedia page,
> and in these less-used-online languages, if something is wrong it's likely
> that no one will notice, perhaps for years. Locale definitions should be
> derived from primary sources, not Wikipedia.
I agree with Zack.
--
Mike FABIAN <mfabian@redhat.com>
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