From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from us-smtp-delivery-124.mimecast.com (us-smtp-delivery-124.mimecast.com [170.10.133.124]) by sourceware.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8E8383858422 for ; Thu, 18 Nov 2021 19:52:08 +0000 (GMT) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.4.1 sourceware.org 8E8383858422 Received: from mimecast-mx01.redhat.com (mimecast-mx01.redhat.com [209.132.183.4]) by relay.mimecast.com with ESMTP with STARTTLS (version=TLSv1.2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) id us-mta-470-vDJ-jxjSOOmwCrSSDe8ilw-1; Thu, 18 Nov 2021 14:52:06 -0500 X-MC-Unique: vDJ-jxjSOOmwCrSSDe8ilw-1 Received: from smtp.corp.redhat.com (int-mx03.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.11.13]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mimecast-mx01.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2B2971054F90 for ; Thu, 18 Nov 2021 19:52:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from greed.delorie.com (ovpn-112-12.phx2.redhat.com [10.3.112.12]) by smtp.corp.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F295E4ABA0; Thu, 18 Nov 2021 19:52:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from greed.delorie.com.redhat.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by greed.delorie.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 1AIJq4502959748; Thu, 18 Nov 2021 14:52:04 -0500 From: DJ Delorie To: Florian Weimer Cc: libc-alpha@sourceware.org Subject: Re: [patch v3] Allow for unpriviledged nested containers In-Reply-To: <87a6i1dz59.fsf@oldenburg.str.redhat.com> Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2021 14:52:04 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.79 on 10.5.11.13 X-Mimecast-Spam-Score: 0 X-Mimecast-Originator: redhat.com Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.5 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH, DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU, DKIM_VALID_EF, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2, SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_NONE, TXREP autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on server2.sourceware.org X-BeenThere: libc-alpha@sourceware.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Libc-alpha mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2021 19:52:09 -0000 Florian Weimer writes: >> Well, for the pldd test, obviously we do ;-) > > Do we? /proc and the PIDs of the processes have to be consistent for > sure, but do we really need them to be separate from the host? It's the consistency that's the problem. If getpid() (which returns a pid in the child namespace) returns a value that's useless in /proc/ (because those are pids in the parent namespace) then the test fails. One process can have different PIDs depending on how you look at it. >> 1. No /proc >> 2. /proc in wrong namespace >> 3. /proc in correct namespace >> >> We'd prefer 3, then 1, but not 2? > > Yeah, 2 is quite bad for some tests at least. Some thread-exit tests > will suffer as well, I think, because they read TIDs from > /proc/self/task. 3-then-1 returns us to my original patch, which attempted to mount it in the child namespace, or failed but let the test run anyway.