From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from us-smtp-delivery-124.mimecast.com (us-smtp-delivery-124.mimecast.com [170.10.133.124]) by sourceware.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64F5B384BC3C for ; Thu, 18 Mar 2021 18:19:33 +0000 (GMT) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 sourceware.org 64F5B384BC3C Received: from mimecast-mx01.redhat.com (mimecast-mx01.redhat.com [209.132.183.4]) (Using TLS) by relay.mimecast.com with ESMTP id us-mta-50-6ZavoE6IPg-w2XgV5qwujg-1; Thu, 18 Mar 2021 14:19:31 -0400 X-MC-Unique: 6ZavoE6IPg-w2XgV5qwujg-1 Received: from smtp.corp.redhat.com (int-mx03.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.11.13]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mimecast-mx01.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6BF566D240 for ; Thu, 18 Mar 2021 18:19:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from rhel8.vm.delorie.com (ovpn-118-168.rdu2.redhat.com [10.10.118.168]) by smtp.corp.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 372576EF41; Thu, 18 Mar 2021 18:19:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from rhel8.vm.redhat.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rhel8.vm.delorie.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id 12IIJSGi210277 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT); Thu, 18 Mar 2021 14:19:28 -0400 From: DJ Delorie To: Florian Weimer Cc: libc-alpha@sourceware.org Subject: Re: tunables vs osxsave vs checkpointing vs _dl_runtime_resolve In-Reply-To: <87mtv0qr8v.fsf@oldenburg.str.redhat.com> (message from Florian Weimer on Thu, 18 Mar 2021 18:57:36 +0100) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2021 14:19:28 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.79 on 10.5.11.13 X-Mimecast-Spam-Score: 0 X-Mimecast-Originator: redhat.com Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.5 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH, DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU, DKIM_VALID_EF, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL, SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_PASS, TXREP autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on server2.sourceware.org X-BeenThere: libc-alpha@sourceware.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Libc-alpha mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2021 18:19:35 -0000 Florian Weimer writes: > The layout matters only if the process is captured at a very unlucky > time. Unlucky? Ha! I *plan* on that kind of bad luck! Call sleep(10). Checkpoint during that call. Crash on return. >> In this case, they just want to disable xsave completely, so it's as >> portable as possible. > > But I don't think it actually is. Disabling XSAVE won't play nicely > with the AVX2 and later calling conventions. That's the YMMV caveat - they have to ensure that they're not using extended registers *at all*. I don't recommend it. It's bad practice. But we still have a tunable that's ignored, for people who want it anyway.