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From: Alexandre Oliva <aoliva@redhat.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
Cc: Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>, Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>,
	David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
	Matthew Wilcox <matthew@wil.cx>,
	David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
	hch@infradead.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	libc-hacker@sources.redhat.com
Subject: Re: [RFC] Splitting kernel headers and deprecating __KERNEL__
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 22:57:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <or4qj7rllv.fsf@livre.redhat.lsd.ic.unicamp.br> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0411301413260.22796@ppc970.osdl.org>

On Nov 30, 2004, Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org> wrote:

> On Tue, 30 Nov 2004, Alexandre Oliva wrote:

>> Then maybe this is the fundamental problem.  As long as the kernel
>> doesn't recognize that an ABI is a contract, rather than an
>> imposition, kernel developers won't care.

> That's a silly analogy. Worse, it's a very flawed analogy.

> If you want to use a legal analogy, the ABI is not a contract, it's a
> public _license_.

I didn't mean to use a legal analogy.  I meant contract in the
software engineering sense.  Sorry if that wasn't clear.

-- 
Alexandre Oliva             http://www.ic.unicamp.br/~oliva/
Red Hat Compiler Engineer   aoliva@{redhat.com, gcc.gnu.org}
Free Software Evangelist  oliva@{lsd.ic.unicamp.br, gnu.org}

  parent reply	other threads:[~2004-11-30 22:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <19865.1101395592@redhat.com>
2004-11-25 18:20 ` Alexandre Oliva
     [not found] ` <20041125165433.GA2849@parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk>
     [not found]   ` <1101406661.8191.9390.camel@hades.cambridge.redhat.com>
     [not found]     ` <20041127032403.GB10536@kroah.com>
     [not found]       ` <16810.24893.747522.656073@cargo.ozlabs.ibm.com>
     [not found]         ` <Pine.LNX.4.58.0411281710490.22796@ppc970.osdl.org>
2004-11-29 17:10           ` Alexandre Oliva
     [not found]             ` <Pine.LNX.4.58.0411290926160.22796@ppc970.osdl.org>
2004-11-29 22:28               ` Alexandre Oliva
     [not found]                 ` <Pine.LNX.4.58.0411291458040.22796@ppc970.osdl.org>
2004-11-30 21:22                   ` Alexandre Oliva
     [not found]                     ` <Pine.LNX.4.58.0411301413260.22796@ppc970.osdl.org>
2004-11-30 22:57                       ` Alexandre Oliva [this message]
     [not found]                         ` <Pine.LNX.4.58.0411301505580.22796@ppc970.osdl.org>
2004-12-01 19:41                           ` Alexandre Oliva
     [not found]             ` <8219.1101828816@redhat.com>
     [not found]               ` <Pine.LNX.4.58.0411300744120.22796@ppc970.osdl.org>
2004-11-30 20:47                 ` Alexandre Oliva
     [not found]                   ` <Pine.LNX.4.58.0411301249590.22796@ppc970.osdl.org>
2004-11-30 21:30                     ` Alexandre Oliva
2004-11-30 21:40                       ` Alexandre Oliva
     [not found]                       ` <Pine.LNX.4.58.0411301423030.22796@ppc970.osdl.org>
2004-11-30 23:05                         ` Alexandre Oliva
     [not found]           ` <1101721336.21273.6138.camel@baythorne.infradead.org>
2004-12-01 11:48             ` Ralf Baechle
     [not found]           ` <20041214025110.A28617@almesberger.net>
     [not found]             ` <Pine.LNX.4.58.0412140734340.3279@ppc970.osdl.org>
2004-12-14 16:55               ` Andreas Schwab
     [not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.58.0411301243000.22796@ppc970.osdl.org>
     [not found]   ` <20041130223359.GA15443@mars.ravnborg.org>
     [not found]     ` <200411302344.21907.mmazur@kernel.pl>
     [not found]       ` <20041130230325.GY26051@parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk>
2004-11-30 23:14         ` Alexandre Oliva
     [not found] <20041214135029.A1271@almesberger.net>
     [not found] ` <200412141923.iBEJNCY9011317@laptop11.inf.utfsm.cl>
     [not found]   ` <20041214194531.GB13811@mars.ravnborg.org>
     [not found]     ` <Pine.LNX.4.58.0412141150460.3279@ppc970.osdl.org>
2004-12-14 20:26       ` Andreas Schwab

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