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From: Rich Felker <dalias@libc.org>
To: Adhemerval Zanella Netto <adhemerval.zanella@linaro.org>
Cc: "Florian Weimer" <fweimer@redhat.com>,
	"Antonios Salios via Libc-help" <libc-help@sourceware.org>,
	"Antonios Salios" <antonios@mwa.re>,
	"Jan Henrik Weinstock" <jan@mwa.re>,
	"Lukas Jünger" <lukas@mwa.re>
Subject: Re: 64 bit time_t on riscv32
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2024 17:26:48 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240115222648.GO22081@brightrain.aerifal.cx> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <111c4bfb-bc58-412e-9a37-a5c2ed7f0e3c@linaro.org>

On Mon, Jan 15, 2024 at 04:55:30PM -0300, Adhemerval Zanella Netto wrote:
> 
> 
> On 15/01/24 10:40, Florian Weimer via Libc-help wrote:
> > * Antonios Salios via Libc-help:
> > 
> >> According to a kernel maintainer, the __USE_TIME_BITS64 macro should be
> >> set on architectures that use 64-bit time [2], otherwise the kernel
> >> headers will not be able to pick the correct definition.
> > 
> > __USE_TIME_BITS64 is an internal glibc macro.  It is not used on
> > architectures which have a 64-bit time_t by default.
> > 
> > Surely the UAPI headers know which time size the architecture uses in
> > the kernel interface, and can be written arcordingly?
> 
> The use of a glibc internal definition on a kABI header is not really
> a good design.  This seems to be only user so far, so I suggest to fix
> on the kernel to not tie to a glibc internal definition. 
> 
> CCing Rich from musl that most likely would want to see this fixed. The
> Android developers might be interested.

At the time this was done, I understood __USE_TIME_BITS64 as the
contract between the userspace implementation and the kernel uapi
headers to say "we use 64-bit time_t and want the 64-bit version of
the types/ioctls/etc." That's what musl does -- we always define
__USE_TIME_BITS64, unconditionally. I haven't read this whole thread,
but it sounds like glibc's rv32 port is breaking their own contract
and not defining __USE_TIME_BITS64...

Rich

  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-01-15 22:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-01-15 12:52 Antonios Salios
2024-01-15 13:40 ` Florian Weimer
2024-01-15 19:55   ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2024-01-15 20:15     ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2024-01-15 20:29       ` Arnd Bergmann
2024-01-15 22:26     ` Rich Felker [this message]
2024-01-16 11:19       ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2024-01-16 15:46         ` Florian Weimer
2024-01-16 15:56           ` Rich Felker
2024-01-16 16:22             ` Florian Weimer
2024-01-16 16:29               ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2024-01-16 20:43               ` Rich Felker

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