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From: Adhemerval Zanella <adhemerval.zanella@linaro.org>
To: Fangrui Song <i@maskray.me>, libc-help@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: Lightning talk notes on glibc
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2021 13:17:37 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <89f7840b-e607-316e-9b4a-1ecab1f8cf41@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210120074815.k6km6cmhrt4aknpo@gmail.com>



On 20/01/2021 04:48, Fangrui Song wrote:
> Greetings, I will give a lightning talk in a small meetup on some GNU
> toolchain projects and I am writing notes:)
> 
> Here is that I have now for glibc. Happy to see more points from you experts:)
> 
> 
> ## glibc
> 
> Repository: <https://sourceware.org/git/gitweb.cgi?p=glibc.git>
> Wiki: <https://sourceware.org/glibc/wiki/>
> Bugzilla: <https://sourceware.org/bugzilla/>
> Mailing lists: `{libc-announce,libc-alpha,libc-locale,libc-stable,libc-help}@sourceware.org`
> 
> A very unfortunate fact: glibc can only be built with `-O2`, not `-O0` or `-O1`.
> If you want to have an un-optimized debug build, deleting an object file and recompiling it with `-g` usually works.
> Another workaround is `#pragma GCC optimize ("O0")`.

Unfortunately this trick might still fail depending whether the routine
is also used on loader, although for library code it does help.

> 
> The `-O2` issue is probably related to (1) expected inlining and (2) avoiding dynamic relocations.

Yes and I started to take a look if it would be possible.  I could build
a un-optimized libc.so, but it still fails at runtime for some reason.

I think a better way would be to try to simplify the bootstrap and document
the requirements of the function call and arch-specific code.  The idea is
to move all the required bootstrap code to maybe a single file and just
build it in an optimized manner.

As static-pie and ifunc has show, the bootstrap code is still somewhat 
complex.

> 
> Run the following commands to populate `/tmp/glibc-many` with toolchains.
> Caution: please make sure the target file system has tens of gigabytes.
> 
> Preparation:
> ```sh
> scripts/build-many-glibcs.py /tmp/glibc-many checkout
> scripts/build-many-glibcs.py /tmp/glibc-many host-libraries
> 
> scripts/build-many-glibcs.py /tmp/glibc-many compilers aarch64-linux-gnu
> scripts/build-many-glibcs.py /tmp/glibc-many compilers powerpc64le-linux-gnu
> scripts/build-many-glibcs.py /tmp/glibc-many compilers sparc64-linux-gnu
> ```
> 

You might want to use the '--shallow' option on checkout to minimize both
the disk and network usage (since at principle you won't need to full git
history) and the --strip on compiler option.

> The `glibcs` command will delete the glibc build directory, build glibc, and run `make check`.

If you want all the build directories to further inspection you might use
'--keep all' option on either compilers or glibcs command.

> 
> ```sh
> scripts/build-many-glibcs.py /tmp/glibc-many glibcs aarch64-linux-gnu
> # Find the logs and test results under /tmp/glibc-many/logs/glibcs/aarch64-linux-gnu/
> 
> scripts/build-many-glibcs.py /tmp/glibc-many glibcs powerpc64le-linux-gnu
> 
> scripts/build-many-glibcs.py /tmp/glibc-many glibcs sparc64-linux-gnu
> ```
> 
> During development, some interesting targets:
> 
> ((((((It'd be nice to list more targets here))))))))
> ```sh
> make -C Debug lib  # meaning?
> make -C Debug objs  # meaning?
> make -C Debug others  # meaning?
> make -C Debug check-abi
> ```

  reply	other threads:[~2021-01-20 16:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-01-20  7:48 Fangrui Song
2021-01-20 16:17 ` Adhemerval Zanella [this message]
2021-01-20 16:20 ` Carlos O'Donell
2021-01-20 16:25 ` Carlos O'Donell
2021-01-20 16:25 ` Carlos O'Donell

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