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From: 이병욱 <nimdrak@naver.com>
To: "Carlos O'Donell" <carlos@systemhalted.org>
Cc: libc-help <libc-help@sourceware.org>
Subject: Re: How to compile and use 'nscd'
Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2022 23:15:23 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <91ed2385bf981412d38f3e1cc068a5@cweb012.nm.nfra.io> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAE2sS1hAMOL1itzzTOZMdNcTiFeLW=dNBdsafinkRPiAMm2emg@mail.gmail.com>

Thank you for your reply.
 
If you know, would you tell me why `CACHE_PRUNE_INTERVAL` is defined as 15? It is hard to find the reason anywhere.
 
If it was intended for mitigating the load of the client server with nscd, I think it is a little large, considering the current server performance.
 
I found at JVM environment (JVM has its own DNS caching), It seems that TTL value close to 0, doesn't have an impact to a client server performance, to an extent.
 
I think if we choose a DNS round robin for distributing the traffic load, it is inevitable to assign a DNS ttl close to 0. Otherwise, it can make biased traffic to servers. 
 
Although I make a A record TTL value below 15, this small TTL value become meaningless because the client make a dns query at least every 15 seconds, which is `CACHE_PRUNE_INTERVAL`.
 
Is there a design philosophy about `15`?
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: "Carlos O'Donell"<carlos@systemhalted.org>
To: "이병욱"<nimdrak@naver.com>;
Cc: "libc-help"<libc-help@sourceware.org>;
Sent: 2022-07-24 (일) 22:50:37 (GMT+09:00)
Subject: Re: How to compile and use 'nscd'
 
On Sun, Jul 24, 2022 at 3:57 AM 이병욱 via Libc-help
<libc-help@sourceware.org> wrote:
>
> I found nscd's dafault ttl should be 15 seconds
>
> because CACHE_PRUNE_INTERVAL is declared as 15.
>
> But it seems hard to modify it and compile nscd and use the customed nscd in my Centos 7.9.
>
> I want to see how nscd works when CACHE_PRUNE_INTERVAL is 1 because I try to use DNS round robin at below environments.
>
> - dns A record www.server.com with 10.1.1.1, 10.1.1.2 with dns ttl 1 seconds.
> - client server with customed nscd, send a request to www.server.com
> - two backend server indicated by 10.1.1.1, 10.1.1.2
>
> Is it possible to use the customed nscd?

It is technically possible to use a customized nscd. However, using a
customized nscd can impact your support through your distribution.

The design goals behind nscd are to cache results locally in as simple
a manner as possible.

The internal hosts cache in nscd is aware of TTL, but the CentOS 7 era
nscd may still have some issues regarding refreshing values based on
TTL.

The value of CACHE_PRUNE_INTERVAL is defined in nscd/nscd.h, and
rebuilding an nscd for your distribution is most easily accomplished
by rebuilding the distribution rpm with a patch added.

The CACHE_PRUNE_INTERVAL drives the loop that prunes the cache, but
other effects prune the cache also, which for the hosts cache should
include the entries ttl.

I suggest evaluating other caching options before changing nscd
though, and you may find it beneficial to look at sssd.

Cheers,
Carlos.

  reply	other threads:[~2022-07-24 14:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-07-24  7:57 이병욱
2022-07-24 13:50 ` Carlos O'Donell
2022-07-24 14:15   ` 이병욱 [this message]
2022-07-29 16:41     ` Carlos O'Donell
2022-07-31  9:18       ` 이병욱
2022-07-31  9:20       ` 이병욱

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