From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-yw1-f178.google.com (mail-yw1-f178.google.com [209.85.128.178]) by sourceware.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BA1543858D33 for ; Mon, 28 Aug 2023 06:57:06 +0000 (GMT) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.4.2 sourceware.org BA1543858D33 Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=linux-m68k.org Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=gmail.com Received: by mail-yw1-f178.google.com with SMTP id 00721157ae682-58caaedb20bso33363607b3.1 for ; Sun, 27 Aug 2023 23:57:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20221208; t=1693205826; x=1693810626; h=content-transfer-encoding:cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc :subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=zL5DJlpHfJ1uG0/XOt7NA2qa7PY6QqanZud3uUxPtSQ=; b=GCsu4afyCtTCzBCUSqHVrOhwTt1yqO7IjTJrxgSrGDpoOsbeNEgr6vpXDYvpv+WvS0 svA0m6p87hPmnzad8StZQfalqhkKAdPuO8EzzbeZnqlTjZ1jBk/WrKorCM57Dok+bvjx io3SGvolznpeOpydpxohwQiC3+F88mmJujcyjlcTg60IyOeq1/AfTmkusm8SWzLVWqAK fn6IVV+OfvmcFe38vKz7ayAsjHN2Kra9U+Yks5SUz4quYZ8jJa+7Sc1YfdPe6l0GimqR a+fxQ/EgA+ghM4Ays3vUSHAytJVYzrDJcq9B2zerG+geQgsMLfaJJcBOLu3KCBoFlIfC Vo9A== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YzAAinZj96ZCws06FvHQHdKVXs2pUQFu8bHH+DQatyJoQYKZ7uJ 45IT7gjpgwFhKG2NN02JFHRhVyiBFTmYnQ== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IElD/FhK+ETFKUG6uIocGMDl2PHizWO4/ZxCtqByZODTgevcNkrIwEUfnbCj+lLfjT4VYzPmQ== X-Received: by 2002:a81:7243:0:b0:57a:8de9:29e7 with SMTP id n64-20020a817243000000b0057a8de929e7mr24155930ywc.28.1693205826112; Sun, 27 Aug 2023 23:57:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-yb1-f177.google.com (mail-yb1-f177.google.com. [209.85.219.177]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id db21-20020a05690c0dd500b005950be5bf24sm850429ywb.116.2023.08.27.23.57.05 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 27 Aug 2023 23:57:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-yb1-f177.google.com with SMTP id 3f1490d57ef6-d72cf9156easo2543605276.0 for ; Sun, 27 Aug 2023 23:57:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 2002:a25:c5c8:0:b0:d7a:cb32:2747 with SMTP id v191-20020a25c5c8000000b00d7acb322747mr4683543ybe.17.1693205825341; Sun, 27 Aug 2023 23:57:05 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <10cbcb8a65639f88e7eeb503fd02df172bc46a07.camel@physik.fu-berlin.de> <80a52487-3105-ed5b-a1eb-ec1a0689ef21@linux-m68k.org> In-Reply-To: <80a52487-3105-ed5b-a1eb-ec1a0689ef21@linux-m68k.org> From: Geert Uytterhoeven Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2023 08:56:54 +0200 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: Re: Tuple and changes for m68k with -malign-int To: Finn Thain Cc: John Paul Adrian Glaubitz , James Le Cuirot , libc-help@sourceware.org, debian-68k , linux-m68k Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN,FREEMAIL_FROM,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,KAM_DMARC_STATUS,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,TXREP autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on server2.sourceware.org List-Id: On Sun, Aug 27, 2023 at 3:03=E2=80=AFAM Finn Thain = wrote: > On Sat, 26 Aug 2023, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > > On Sat, 2023-08-26 at 09:53 +0100, James Le Cuirot wrote: > > Not only mold but also most notably the following projects: > > > > - LLVM > > - Firebird Database > > - OpenJDK > > - Various Qt packages > > And potentially more in the future, which may be anticipated on the basis > that "those users don't need a stable ABI any more, so let's just ignore > the portability issues in our code and leave the problem to the distros > and toolchain developers". Indeed, the world is slowly turning into "everything is 64-bit little endia= n"... > Moreover, why is it that only a few developers have a problem with making > explicit their decisions regarding alignment of shorts? What actual pain > does it cause them to accept a patch to make their struct layouts plain? I guess you mean "ints" and "longs" instead of "shorts"? Gr{oetje,eeting}s, Geert --=20 Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- geert@linux-m68k= .org In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. Bu= t when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like t= hat. -- Linus Torvalds