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From: <tomas@tuxteam.de>
To: Konstantin Kharlamov <hi-angel@yandex.ru>
Cc: libc-help@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: Q: System behaviour in out of memory situation
Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2023 06:41:55 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZH1nk2JiiOGA9isg@tuxteam.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <af7ffa95539f1028f628aa54f67d869d58c681ff.camel@yandex.ru>

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On Mon, Jun 05, 2023 at 03:28:00AM +0300, Konstantin Kharlamov wrote:
> Hi, just 2 theoretic questions:
> 
> 1. I know that calling malloc() only allocates a virtual memory, not a real one. It's kind of memory you can allocate Terabytes of, which some apps do (e.g. on my system electron has 1.1T allocated). It will only turn into a real memory by the kernel upon the app accessing it. But then, assuming OOM-killer is disabled, what happens if I try to access such virtual memory thus forcing it to turn into a real one, but the system is out of real memory ATM?
> 2. Is it unrealistic to expect ENOMEM from `malloc()`? That is because α) most systems have OOM-killer enabled, so instead of ENOMEM some app will get killed β) In absence of OOM-killer you'll get virtual memory successfully allocated, which returns us to 1.
> 
> P.S.: I asked 1st question on #glibc OFTC on Saturday as well, but got no reply still. So decided to give a try to the ML.

I guess this is more an operating system question that a libc one.

Since you are talking about the OOM killer, I further guess that
your context is Linux. In this case, your magic keyword is
"memory overcommitment". There is a setting for that, see for
example here:

  https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/v5.1/vm/overcommit-accounting.html

Cheers
-- 
t

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  reply	other threads:[~2023-06-05  4:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 3+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-06-05  0:28 Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-06-05  4:41 ` tomas [this message]
2023-06-05  6:39 ` Florian Weimer

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