From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from welho-filter2.welho.com (welho-filter2b.welho.com [83.102.41.28]) by sourceware.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 320813858D28 for ; Tue, 29 Aug 2023 08:52:21 +0000 (GMT) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.4.2 sourceware.org 320813858D28 Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=helsinkinet.fi Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=helsinkinet.fi Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by welho-filter2.welho.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24A4C43D62; Tue, 29 Aug 2023 11:52:19 +0300 (EEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at pp.htv.fi Received: from welho-smtp1.welho.com ([IPv6:::ffff:83.102.41.84]) by localhost (welho-filter2.welho.com [::ffff:83.102.41.24]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id UBd3gwth2BFN; Tue, 29 Aug 2023 11:52:18 +0300 (EEST) Received: from [192.168.0.20] (89-27-78-73.bb.dnainternet.fi [89.27.78.73]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by welho-smtp1.welho.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 83AC67A; Tue, 29 Aug 2023 11:52:14 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2023 11:52:14 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.14.0 Subject: Re: Tuple and changes for m68k with -malign-int To: Finn Thain Cc: libc-help@sourceware.org, debian-68k , linux-m68k References: <10cbcb8a65639f88e7eeb503fd02df172bc46a07.camel@physik.fu-berlin.de> <80a52487-3105-ed5b-a1eb-ec1a0689ef21@linux-m68k.org> <4b4fe9c56dfdb8ec74150413cfc211d70243eb7e.camel@physik.fu-berlin.de> <0891ec11-bed1-9120-79d5-4436dc9aee32@linux-m68k.org> Content-Language: en-US From: Eero Tamminen In-Reply-To: <0891ec11-bed1-9120-79d5-4436dc9aee32@linux-m68k.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,KAM_DMARC_STATUS,KAM_SHORT,NICE_REPLY_A,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,TXREP autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on server2.sourceware.org List-Id: Hi, On 29.8.2023 4.14, Finn Thain wrote: > On Mon, 28 Aug 2023, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: >> And since we have to break the ABI anyway to be able to use 64-bit >> time_t > > If you're worried about Y2038, aren't you jumping the gun? I reckon we > have about 10 years in which to figure out what a better m68k ABI should > look like. Debian is discussing LFS + time_t transition for the next release, for all architectures. They are related, and if one needs to break / transition ABI, doing it once is better than doing it twice... LWN has summary of the discussion: https://lwn.net/Articles/938149/ - Eero