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From: Rafal Luzynski <digitalfreak@lingonborough.com>
To: Keld Simonsen <keld@keldix.com>
Cc: Mikhail Gribanov <mikhail.gribanov@gmail.com>,
	libc-alpha@sourceware.org, bug-glibc-locales@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Incorrect days of the week in ru_UA locale
Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2019 19:45:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1380310075.857991.1569959113276@poczta.nazwa.pl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190928173736.GA12877@rap.rap.dk>

28.09.2019 19:37 Keld Simonsen <keld@keldix.com> wrote:
> 
> I think we should use lowercase that is what we do with manuyothe european
> locales
> and it is the culturally correct form
> 
> keld

Thank you for your feedback, Keld.  Unfortunately, as a native speaker
of one of those languages I must say that this is more complex.
Indeed, names of the weeks and months are usually lowercase but
when they appear in the beginning of a sentence they are uppercase.
I am afraid that a name of a weekday more often appears in the beginning
of the sentence than in the middle.  To the extent that some locales
prefer the weekday and/or month names to start with the uppercase.

What we actually need is a new format modifier to control the first
letter being uppercase/lowercase.  Currently we have only "^" to convert
whole substring (e.g., a weekday name) to uppercase, and "#" to swap
the upper/lowercase.  It was discussed in the past, there is a bug
report and a proposal to ensure that "^#" works as a converter to
lowercase but this is not enough because I would like to see one more
format modifier to convert to titlecase (that is: the first letter
being uppercase).  I would be happy to work on that problem but
it is a separate case and would need more discussion.

Back about the main problem, I would like to post a patch which would
be the best explanation what I mean in this particular case.

Best regards,

Rafal

  reply	other threads:[~2019-10-01 19:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-09-27 15:25 Mikhail Gribanov
2019-09-27 15:44 ` Florian Weimer
2019-09-27 22:49 ` Rafal Luzynski
2019-09-28 17:25   ` Keld Simonsen
2019-10-01 19:45     ` Rafal Luzynski [this message]
2019-10-01 20:54       ` Keld Simonsen
2019-10-02  7:33         ` Mikhail Gribanov
2019-10-02  7:36           ` Mikhail Gribanov
2019-10-02 22:14         ` Rafal Luzynski
2019-10-03  6:24           ` Mikhail Gribanov
2019-10-05  8:04           ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2019-10-05 19:58             ` Rafal Luzynski
2019-10-05  8:56           ` Keld Simonsen
2019-10-05 20:16             ` Rafal Luzynski

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