* [Bug localedata/2527] New: Maybe first work day should be monday by default?
@ 2006-04-08 0:22 samuel dot thibault at ens-lyon dot org
2006-04-10 15:08 ` [Bug localedata/2527] " keld at dkuug dot dk
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From: samuel dot thibault at ens-lyon dot org @ 2006-04-08 0:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: libc-locales
Hi,
For now, first_workday is 1 by default, i.e. Sunday (since first day
of the week system is 19971130, i.e. Sunday). This is probably wrong
for many locales. At least fr_FR should be corrected into first_workday
set to 2 (monday).
Regards,
Samuel
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Summary: Maybe first work day should be monday by default?
Product: glibc
Version: 2.3.6
Status: NEW
Severity: minor
Priority: P2
Component: localedata
AssignedTo: libc-locales at sources dot redhat dot com
ReportedBy: samuel dot thibault at ens-lyon dot org
CC: glibc-bugs at sources dot redhat dot com
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* [Bug localedata/2527] Maybe first work day should be monday by default?
2006-04-08 0:22 [Bug localedata/2527] New: Maybe first work day should be monday by default? samuel dot thibault at ens-lyon dot org
@ 2006-04-10 15:08 ` keld at dkuug dot dk
2006-04-11 20:51 ` Keld Jørn Simonsen
2006-04-10 15:08 ` [Bug localedata/2527] New: " Keld Jørn Simonsen
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From: keld at dkuug dot dk @ 2006-04-10 15:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: libc-locales
------- Additional Comments From keld at dkuug dot dk 2006-04-10 15:08 -------
Subject: Re: New: Maybe first work day should be monday by default?
On Sat, Apr 08, 2006 at 12:22:50AM -0000, samuel dot thibault at ens-lyon dot org wrote:
> Hi,
>
> For now, first_workday is 1 by default, i.e. Sunday (since first day
> of the week system is 19971130, i.e. Sunday). This is probably wrong
> for many locales. At least fr_FR should be corrected into first_workday
> set to 2 (monday).
I don't know if this is correct wrti the software Sunday being 1
and Monday being 2, but if it is, I sincerely believe it is an
error in the software. Monday should be 1, and Sunday should be 0 or
Seven. This according both to the POSIX standard ISO/IEC 9945 and
to the ISO locale standard ISO/IEC TR 14652.
Best regards
keld
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* Re: [Bug localedata/2527] New: Maybe first work day should be monday by default?
2006-04-08 0:22 [Bug localedata/2527] New: Maybe first work day should be monday by default? samuel dot thibault at ens-lyon dot org
2006-04-10 15:08 ` [Bug localedata/2527] " keld at dkuug dot dk
@ 2006-04-10 15:08 ` Keld Jørn Simonsen
2006-04-10 15:34 ` [Bug localedata/2527] " samuel dot thibault at ens-lyon dot org
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From: Keld Jørn Simonsen @ 2006-04-10 15:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: samuel dot thibault at ens-lyon dot org; +Cc: libc-locales
On Sat, Apr 08, 2006 at 12:22:50AM -0000, samuel dot thibault at ens-lyon dot org wrote:
> Hi,
>
> For now, first_workday is 1 by default, i.e. Sunday (since first day
> of the week system is 19971130, i.e. Sunday). This is probably wrong
> for many locales. At least fr_FR should be corrected into first_workday
> set to 2 (monday).
I don't know if this is correct wrti the software Sunday being 1
and Monday being 2, but if it is, I sincerely believe it is an
error in the software. Monday should be 1, and Sunday should be 0 or
Seven. This according both to the POSIX standard ISO/IEC 9945 and
to the ISO locale standard ISO/IEC TR 14652.
Best regards
keld
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* [Bug localedata/2527] Maybe first work day should be monday by default?
2006-04-08 0:22 [Bug localedata/2527] New: Maybe first work day should be monday by default? samuel dot thibault at ens-lyon dot org
2006-04-10 15:08 ` [Bug localedata/2527] " keld at dkuug dot dk
2006-04-10 15:08 ` [Bug localedata/2527] New: " Keld Jørn Simonsen
@ 2006-04-10 15:34 ` samuel dot thibault at ens-lyon dot org
2006-04-11 20:51 ` keld at dkuug dot dk
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From: samuel dot thibault at ens-lyon dot org @ 2006-04-10 15:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: libc-locales
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------- Additional Comments From samuel dot thibault at ens-lyon dot org 2006-04-10 15:34 -------
Subject: Re: Maybe first work day should be monday by default?
Hi,
keld at dkuug dot dk, le Mon 10 Apr 2006 15:08:29 -0000, a écrit :
> I don't know if this is correct wrti the software Sunday being 1
> and Monday being 2, but if it is, I sincerely believe it is an
> error in the software. Monday should be 1, and Sunday should be 0 or
> Seven. This according both to the POSIX standard ISO/IEC 9945 and
> to the ISO locale standard ISO/IEC TR 14652.
Please re-read 14652 about week:
If the keyword is not specified the values are taken as 7, 19971130
(a Sunday), and 7 (Saturday), respectively. ISO 8601 conforming
applications should use the values 7, 19971201 (a Monday), and 4
(Thursday), respectively. This keyword is optional.
Hence 1 can designate a Sunday (default value), or a Monday (ISO 8601
behavior), or actually anything else (other week systems).
Regards,
Samuel
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* [Bug localedata/2527] Maybe first work day should be monday by default?
2006-04-08 0:22 [Bug localedata/2527] New: Maybe first work day should be monday by default? samuel dot thibault at ens-lyon dot org
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2006-04-10 15:34 ` [Bug localedata/2527] " samuel dot thibault at ens-lyon dot org
@ 2006-04-11 20:51 ` keld at dkuug dot dk
2006-04-11 21:01 ` samuel dot thibault at ens-lyon dot org
2006-04-25 20:49 ` drepper at redhat dot com
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From: keld at dkuug dot dk @ 2006-04-11 20:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: libc-locales
------- Additional Comments From keld at dkuug dot dk 2006-04-11 20:51 -------
Subject: Re: Maybe first work day should be monday by default?
On Mon, Apr 10, 2006 at 03:08:29PM -0000, keld at dkuug dot dk wrote:
>
> ------- Additional Comments From keld at dkuug dot dk 2006-04-10 15:08 -------
> Subject: Re: New: Maybe first work day should be monday by default?
>
> On Sat, Apr 08, 2006 at 12:22:50AM -0000, samuel dot thibault at ens-lyon dot org wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > For now, first_workday is 1 by default, i.e. Sunday (since first day
> > of the week system is 19971130, i.e. Sunday). This is probably wrong
> > for many locales. At least fr_FR should be corrected into first_workday
> > set to 2 (monday).
>
> I don't know if this is correct wrti the software Sunday being 1
> and Monday being 2, but if it is, I sincerely believe it is an
> error in the software. Monday should be 1, and Sunday should be 0 or
> Seven. This according both to the POSIX standard ISO/IEC 9945 and
> to the ISO locale standard ISO/IEC TR 14652.
Looking at the text of 14652 it should not be correct to list the
first_workday as 2 . In France, AFAIK, they start the week on Monday,
and the first workday is Monday. That is, first_workday = 1.
But it also then needs a correction for the week to begin on a Monday.
best regards
keld
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* Re: [Bug localedata/2527] Maybe first work day should be monday by default?
2006-04-10 15:08 ` [Bug localedata/2527] " keld at dkuug dot dk
@ 2006-04-11 20:51 ` Keld Jørn Simonsen
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From: Keld Jørn Simonsen @ 2006-04-11 20:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: keld at dkuug dot dk; +Cc: libc-locales
On Mon, Apr 10, 2006 at 03:08:29PM -0000, keld at dkuug dot dk wrote:
>
> ------- Additional Comments From keld at dkuug dot dk 2006-04-10 15:08 -------
> Subject: Re: New: Maybe first work day should be monday by default?
>
> On Sat, Apr 08, 2006 at 12:22:50AM -0000, samuel dot thibault at ens-lyon dot org wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > For now, first_workday is 1 by default, i.e. Sunday (since first day
> > of the week system is 19971130, i.e. Sunday). This is probably wrong
> > for many locales. At least fr_FR should be corrected into first_workday
> > set to 2 (monday).
>
> I don't know if this is correct wrti the software Sunday being 1
> and Monday being 2, but if it is, I sincerely believe it is an
> error in the software. Monday should be 1, and Sunday should be 0 or
> Seven. This according both to the POSIX standard ISO/IEC 9945 and
> to the ISO locale standard ISO/IEC TR 14652.
Looking at the text of 14652 it should not be correct to list the
first_workday as 2 . In France, AFAIK, they start the week on Monday,
and the first workday is Monday. That is, first_workday = 1.
But it also then needs a correction for the week to begin on a Monday.
best regards
keld
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* [Bug localedata/2527] Maybe first work day should be monday by default?
2006-04-08 0:22 [Bug localedata/2527] New: Maybe first work day should be monday by default? samuel dot thibault at ens-lyon dot org
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2006-04-11 20:51 ` keld at dkuug dot dk
@ 2006-04-11 21:01 ` samuel dot thibault at ens-lyon dot org
2006-04-25 20:49 ` drepper at redhat dot com
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From: samuel dot thibault at ens-lyon dot org @ 2006-04-11 21:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
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------- Additional Comments From samuel dot thibault at ens-lyon dot org 2006-04-11 21:01 -------
Subject: Re: Maybe first work day should be monday by default?
keld at dkuug dot dk, le Tue 11 Apr 2006 20:51:41 -0000, a écrit :
>
> ------- Additional Comments From keld at dkuug dot dk 2006-04-11 20:51 -------
> Subject: Re: Maybe first work day should be monday by default?
>
> On Mon, Apr 10, 2006 at 03:08:29PM -0000, keld at dkuug dot dk wrote:
> >
> > ------- Additional Comments From keld at dkuug dot dk 2006-04-10 15:08 -------
> > Subject: Re: New: Maybe first work day should be monday by default?
> >
> > On Sat, Apr 08, 2006 at 12:22:50AM -0000, samuel dot thibault at ens-lyon dot org wrote:
> > > For now, first_workday is 1 by default, i.e. Sunday (since first day
> > > of the week system is 19971130, i.e. Sunday). This is probably wrong
> > > for many locales. At least fr_FR should be corrected into first_workday
> > > set to 2 (monday).
> >
> > I don't know if this is correct wrti the software Sunday being 1
> > and Monday being 2, but if it is, I sincerely believe it is an
> > error in the software. Monday should be 1, and Sunday should be 0 or
> > Seven. This according both to the POSIX standard ISO/IEC 9945 and
> > to the ISO locale standard ISO/IEC TR 14652.
>
> Looking at the text of 14652 it should not be correct to list the
> first_workday as 2 . In France, AFAIK, they start the week on Monday,
> and the first workday is Monday. That is, first_workday = 1.
> But it also then needs a correction for the week to begin on a Monday.
So "week" should be corrected too. But I wonder if "first_weekday" is
useful at all then.
Regards,
Samuel
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* [Bug localedata/2527] Maybe first work day should be monday by default?
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2006-04-11 21:01 ` samuel dot thibault at ens-lyon dot org
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From: drepper at redhat dot com @ 2006-04-25 20:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
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------- Additional Comments From drepper at redhat dot com 2006-04-25 20:49 -------
No default will be changed.
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