be-tarask

be-tarask

[Zmicer Turok]

Hi, tell me please, is it possible to add a locale be-tarask for Belarusian?

Re: be-tarask

[Carlos O'Donell]

On 2/24/20 10:02 AM, Zmicer Turok wrote:
> Hi, tell me please, is it possible to add a locale be-tarask for Belarusian?

Locales can certainly be added if people are willing to do the work to add them.

Can you please explain what be-tarask would represent?

We currently have be_BY and be_BY@latin (latin script version).

-- 
Cheers,
Carlos.

Re: be-tarask

[Rafal Luzynski]

24.02.2020 16:18 Carlos O'Donell <carlos@redhat.com> wrote:
> 
> On 2/24/20 10:02 AM, Zmicer Turok wrote:
> > Hi, tell me please, is it possible to add a locale be-tarask for
> > Belarusian?
> 
> Locales can certainly be added if people are willing to do the work to add
> them.
> 
> Can you please explain what be-tarask would represent?

be-tarask is an alternative (classical, old) spelling of Belarusian language
using the Cyrillic script (same as be_BY). [1]

> We currently have be_BY and be_BY@latin (latin script version).

The bug report and the discussion is here: [2]

Last time I asked a native speaker I was told that less and less people use
that spelling so it is not worth adding.  Has anything changed recently?
 Are
there people willing to use it?

Another obstacle is that the variant is not supported by CLDR.  Also I'm
not sure if Taraškievica is supported by any official and/or scientific
institution.  It may be difficult to verify the correctness of the data.
However, if we overcome these difficulties adding be_BY@tarask is possible.

Regards,

Rafal


[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tara%C5%A1kievica
[2] https://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1015

Fwd: Re: be-tarask

[Zmicer Turok]

-------- Original Message --------
From: Zmicer Turok <nashtlumach@gmail.com>
Sent: 25 лютага 2020 08.07.01 GMT+03:00
To: Rafal Luzynski <digitalfreak@lingonborough.com>, libc-locales@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: be-tarask

Taraškievica is not supported by any official and/or scientific
institution, but there are philologists and writers who use this spelling. There are much more, the weight of those who use be-latn. There are as many users. Approximate activity can be viewed in the Wikipedia. The layout is no different from "be", there are necessary chars. Sense to add a locale exists.

On 24 лютага 2020 23.36.20 GMT+03:00, Rafal Luzynski <digitalfreak@lingonborough.com> wrote:
>24.02.2020 16:18 Carlos O'Donell <carlos@redhat.com> wrote:
>> 
>> On 2/24/20 10:02 AM, Zmicer Turok wrote:
>> > Hi, tell me please, is it possible to add a locale be-tarask for
>> > Belarusian?
>> 
>> Locales can certainly be added if people are willing to do the work
>to add
>> them.
>> 
>> Can you please explain what be-tarask would represent?
>
>be-tarask is an alternative (classical, old) spelling of Belarusian
>language
>using the Cyrillic script (same as be_BY). [1]
>
>> We currently have be_BY and be_BY@latin (latin script version).
>
>The bug report and the discussion is here: [2]
>
>Last time I asked a native speaker I was told that less and less people
>use
>that spelling so it is not worth adding.  Has anything changed
>recently?
> Are
>there people willing to use it?
>
>Another obstacle is that the variant is not supported by CLDR.  Also
>I'm
>not sure if Taraškievica is supported by any official and/or scientific
>institution.  It may be difficult to verify the correctness of the
>data.
>However, if we overcome these difficulties adding be_BY@tarask is
>possible.
>
>Regards,
>
>Rafal
>
>
>[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tara%C5%A1kievica
>[2] https://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1015

Re: be-tarask

[Zmicer Turok]

Also in CLDR is missing be-Latn, but but it exists in the libc.  https://github.com/unicode-org/cldr/tree/master/common/main



On 25 лютага 2020 08.07.01 GMT+03:00, Zmicer Turok <nashtlumach@gmail.com> wrote:
>Taraškievica is not supported by any official and/or scientific
>institution, but there are philologists and writers who use this
>spelling. There are much more, the weight of those who use be-latn.
>There are as many users. Approximate activity can be viewed in the
>Wikipedia. The layout is no different from "be", there are necessary
>chars. Sense to add a locale exists.
>
>On 24 лютага 2020 23.36.20 GMT+03:00, Rafal Luzynski
><digitalfreak@lingonborough.com> wrote:
>>24.02.2020 16:18 Carlos O'Donell <carlos@redhat.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> On 2/24/20 10:02 AM, Zmicer Turok wrote:
>>> > Hi, tell me please, is it possible to add a locale be-tarask for
>>> > Belarusian?
>>> 
>>> Locales can certainly be added if people are willing to do the work
>>to add
>>> them.
>>> 
>>> Can you please explain what be-tarask would represent?
>>
>>be-tarask is an alternative (classical, old) spelling of Belarusian
>>language
>>using the Cyrillic script (same as be_BY). [1]
>>
>>> We currently have be_BY and be_BY@latin (latin script version).
>>
>>The bug report and the discussion is here: [2]
>>
>>Last time I asked a native speaker I was told that less and less
>people
>>use
>>that spelling so it is not worth adding.  Has anything changed
>>recently?
>> Are
>>there people willing to use it?
>>
>>Another obstacle is that the variant is not supported by CLDR.  Also
>>I'm
>>not sure if Taraškievica is supported by any official and/or
>scientific
>>institution.  It may be difficult to verify the correctness of the
>>data.
>>However, if we overcome these difficulties adding be_BY@tarask is
>>possible.
>>
>>Regards,
>>
>>Rafal
>>
>>
>>[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tara%C5%A1kievica
>>[2] https://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1015

Re: Fwd: Re: be-tarask

[Zmicer Turok]

Thanks for answers.  I hope someone from your community does it.  I will wait.

On 24 лютага 2020 19.55.00 GMT+03:00, Carlos O'Donell <carlos@redhat.com> wrote:
>On 2/24/20 11:47 AM, Zmicer Turok wrote:
>> Belarusian Classical Orthography is a variant of the orthography of
>> the Belarusian language. There are a large number of people who use
>> it. I would like them to be able to use it in linux. It would be
>> great if you add this locale.
>
>I don't have the experience to add this locale. Someone with such
>experience would have to propose the patch. I don't see why we could
>not accept such a locale.

Re: Fwd: Re: be-tarask

[Carlos O'Donell]

On 2/24/20 11:47 AM, Zmicer Turok wrote:
> Belarusian Classical Orthography is a variant of the orthography of
> the Belarusian language. There are a large number of people who use
> it. I would like them to be able to use it in linux. It would be
> great if you add this locale.

I don't have the experience to add this locale. Someone with such
experience would have to propose the patch. I don't see why we could
not accept such a locale.

-- 
Cheers,
Carlos.

Fwd: Re: be-tarask

[Zmicer Turok]

-------- Original Message --------
From: Zmicer Turok <nashtlumach@gmail.com>
Sent: 24 лютага 2020 18.33.23 GMT+03:00
To: Carlos O'Donell <carlos@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: be-tarask

Belarusian Classical Orthography is a variant of the orthography of the Belarusian language. There are a large number of people who use it. I would like them to be able to use it in linux. It would be great if you add this locale.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tara%C5%A1kievica

On 24 лютага 2020 18.18.34 GMT+03:00, Carlos O'Donell <carlos@redhat.com> wrote:
>On 2/24/20 10:02 AM, Zmicer Turok wrote:
>> Hi, tell me please, is it possible to add a locale be-tarask for
>Belarusian?
>
>Locales can certainly be added if people are willing to do the work to
>add them.
>
>Can you please explain what be-tarask would represent?
>
>We currently have be_BY and be_BY@latin (latin script version).