From: Allan McRae <allan@archlinux.org>
To: keld@keldix.com, Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>
Cc: Marko Myllynen <myllynen@redhat.com>,
GNU C Library <libc-alpha@sourceware.org>,
libc-locales@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: Removing locale timezone information
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2015 21:07:00 -0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <55CB570B.6020600@archlinux.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150812140837.GA23436@www5.open-std.org>
On 13/08/15 00:08, keld@keldix.com wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 09, 2015 at 08:52:31AM -0700, Paul Eggert wrote:
>> keld@keldix.com wrote:
>>> So glibc has no way of making quick corrections appear in distros?
>>> I think most other critical software has a path to have eg security fixes
>>> happen very fast in distros.
>>
>> It's typically harder to update glibc than to update time zone data. This
>> is partly a matter of size (glibc's files are an order of magnitude larger
>> than tzdata's), and partly a matter of release engineering (changing tzdata
>> has far fewer security and reliability implications than changing glibc
>> does). We don't want to treat every minor daylight-saving rule change with
>> the same urgency and thoroughness as we treat a serious security bug in
>> glibc. And this is why most (perhaps all) GNU/Linux distributions have
>> decoupled tzdata from glibc.
>
> My impression is that timezone changes are normally announced in due time
> so that they can be included in normal glibc release schedule, which
> I think is about twice a year, but irregulary. I have not been down into
> the data, tho.
I can recall a couple of occasions where there was a very short notice.
e.g. last week, North Korea changed its timezone, effective on the 15th.
Going through the archives of tz-announce [1], shows plenty of short
notice changes.
It seems you should look at actual data before making these assertions.
Allan
[1] http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/tz-announce/
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-08-12 21:07 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-06-03 15:57 Marko Myllynen
2015-06-03 21:33 ` keld
2015-06-05 8:28 ` Marko Myllynen
2015-08-06 21:45 ` keld
2015-08-06 21:45 ` pinskia
2015-08-06 21:46 ` keld
2015-08-07 2:33 ` Rich Felker
2015-08-07 0:45 ` Mike Frysinger
2015-08-09 21:12 ` keld
2015-08-07 21:49 ` Paul Eggert
2015-08-09 21:12 ` keld
2015-08-09 21:12 ` Paul Eggert
[not found] ` <20150812140837.GA23436@www5.open-std.org>
2015-08-12 21:07 ` Zack Weinberg
2015-08-12 23:13 ` Keld Simonsen
2015-08-12 23:13 ` Allan McRae
2015-08-12 21:07 ` Paul Eggert
2015-08-12 21:07 ` Andreas Schwab
2015-08-12 21:07 ` Allan McRae [this message]
2015-06-03 21:33 ` Paul Eggert
2015-06-12 14:05 ` [PATCH] Remove " Marko Myllynen
2015-08-05 9:07 ` Mike Frysinger
2015-08-05 11:51 ` keld
2015-08-05 11:51 ` keld
2015-08-05 10:53 ` Mike Frysinger
2015-08-05 11:52 ` keld
2015-08-05 12:39 ` Andreas Schwab
2015-08-05 13:09 ` keld
2015-08-05 13:33 ` Mike Frysinger
2015-08-05 15:56 ` Keld Simonsen
2015-08-05 16:30 ` Joseph Myers
2015-08-06 21:46 ` Keld Simonsen
2015-08-06 21:46 ` Joseph Myers
2015-08-06 21:46 ` Andreas Schwab
2015-08-06 21:46 ` Zack Weinberg
2015-08-06 2:53 ` Mike Frysinger
2015-08-05 11:52 ` Andreas Schwab
2015-08-05 11:52 ` keld
2015-08-05 12:30 ` Andreas Schwab
2015-08-05 13:03 ` keld
2015-08-05 16:30 ` Paul Eggert
2015-08-06 2:56 ` Mike Frysinger
2015-08-06 17:13 ` keld
2015-08-06 17:13 ` Paul Eggert
2015-08-06 17:22 ` keld
2015-08-06 17:14 ` pinskia
2015-08-06 17:25 ` keld
2015-08-06 17:14 ` keld
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