* Possible improvements on German locales
@ 2016-03-19 23:23 Matthias Dieter Wallnöfer
2016-04-10 5:43 ` Mike Frysinger
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From: Matthias Dieter Wallnöfer @ 2016-03-19 23:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: libc-locales
Hi all,
during my work on the de_IT locale I found some room for improvements
for the de_AT, de_BE and de_CH locales.
1. LC_MESSAGES: may be copied from de_DE (only de_AT)
2. LC_NAME: de_DE contains more categories and goes more into detail.
So I propose a copy reference in the other three locales.
> LC_NAME
> name_fmt "%d%t%g%t/
> %m%t%f"
> name_miss "Fräulein"
> name_mr "Herr"
> name_mrs "Frau"
> name_ms "Frau"
> END LC_NAME
3. LC_TIME date_fmt. date command's output is uncommon in German.
Der Standard (derstandard.at), a big Austrian news site presents the
date in a sane order. <weekday> <day> <month> <year> <time>
> Samstag, 19. März 2016, 20:33
bad:
> $ LANG=de_AT.utf8 date
> Sam Mär 19 20:24:43 CET 2016
better:
> $ LANG=de_DE.utf8 date
> Sa 19. Mär 20:24:35 CET 2016
good:
> $ LANG=de_DE.utf8 date +%c
> Sa 19 Mär 2016 20:41:25 CET
So I would change the "date" output for each German locale into the
same as "data +%c".
Just my thoughts,
Matthias Wallnöfer
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* Re: Possible improvements on German locales
2016-03-19 23:23 Possible improvements on German locales Matthias Dieter Wallnöfer
@ 2016-04-10 5:43 ` Mike Frysinger
2016-04-11 20:35 ` Wallnoefer, Matthias
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From: Mike Frysinger @ 2016-04-10 5:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Matthias Dieter Wallnöfer; +Cc: libc-locales
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On 19 Mar 2016 21:00, Matthias Dieter Wallnöfer wrote:
> during my work on the de_IT locale I found some room for improvements
> for the de_AT, de_BE and de_CH locales.
>
> 1. LC_MESSAGES: may be copied from de_DE (only de_AT)
> 2. LC_NAME: de_DE contains more categories and goes more into detail.
feel free to post patches
> 3. LC_TIME date_fmt. date command's output is uncommon in German.
see this thread:
https://sourceware.org/ml/libc-alpha/2016-04/msg00158.html
-mike
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* Re: Possible improvements on German locales
2016-04-11 20:35 ` Wallnoefer, Matthias
@ 2016-04-11 19:00 ` Mike Frysinger
2016-04-13 6:27 ` Matthias Dieter Wallnöfer
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From: Mike Frysinger @ 2016-04-11 19:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Wallnoefer, Matthias; +Cc: libc-locales
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On 11 Apr 2016 18:12, Wallnoefer, Matthias wrote:
> Something like these two patches. You may ignore the date part in de_AT.
ignoring the date_fmt change, these look fine to me
-mike
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* Re: Possible improvements on German locales
2016-04-10 5:43 ` Mike Frysinger
@ 2016-04-11 20:35 ` Wallnoefer, Matthias
2016-04-11 19:00 ` Mike Frysinger
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From: Wallnoefer, Matthias @ 2016-04-11 20:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Mike Frysinger; +Cc: libc-locales
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Something like these two patches. You may ignore the date part in de_AT.
Matthias
Am 2016-04-10 07:42, schrieb Mike Frysinger:
> On 19 Mar 2016 21:00, Matthias Dieter Wallnöfer wrote:
>> during my work on the de_IT locale I found some room for improvements
>> for the de_AT, de_BE and de_CH locales.
>>
>> 1. LC_MESSAGES: may be copied from de_DE (only de_AT)
>> 2. LC_NAME: de_DE contains more categories and goes more into detail.
>
> feel free to post patches
>
>> 3. LC_TIME date_fmt. date command's output is uncommon in German.
>
> see this thread:
> https://sourceware.org/ml/libc-alpha/2016-04/msg00158.html
> -mike
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diff --git a/usr/share/i18n/locales/de_AT b/de_AT
index 7c31538..f7e6649 100644
--- a/usr/share/i18n/locales/de_AT
+++ b/de_AT
@@ -54,8 +54,7 @@ copy "iso14651_t1"
END LC_COLLATE
LC_MESSAGES
-yesexpr "<U005E><U005B><U006A><U004A><U0079><U0059><U005D><U002E><U002A>"
-noexpr "<U005E><U005B><U006E><U004E><U005D><U002E><U002A>"
+copy "de_DE"
END LC_MESSAGES
LC_MONETARY
@@ -116,9 +115,9 @@ d_fmt "<U0025><U0059><U002D><U0025><U006D><U002D><U0025><U0064>"
t_fmt "<U0025><U0054>"
am_pm "";""
t_fmt_ampm ""
-date_fmt "<U0025><U0061><U0020><U0025><U0062><U0020><U0025><U0065>/
-<U0020><U0025><U0048><U003A><U0025><U004D><U003A><U0025><U0053><U0020>/
-<U0025><U005A><U0020><U0025><U0059>"
+date_fmt "<U0025><U0061><U0020><U0025><U002D><U0064><U002E><U0020>/
+<U0025><U0062><U0020><U0025><U0048><U003A><U0025><U004D><U003A><U0025><U0053>/
+<U0020><U0025><U005A><U0020><U0025><U0059>"
week 7;19971130;4
first_weekday 2
first_workday 2
@@ -143,8 +142,7 @@ measurement 1
END LC_MEASUREMENT
LC_NAME
-name_fmt "<U0025><U0064><U0025><U0074><U0025><U0067><U0025><U0074>/
-<U0025><U006D><U0025><U0074><U0025><U0066>"
+copy "de_DE"
END LC_NAME
LC_ADDRESS
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diff --git a/usr/share/i18n/locales/de_CH b/de_CH
index 8835f08..5f710aa 100644
--- a/usr/share/i18n/locales/de_CH
+++ b/de_CH
@@ -145,8 +145,7 @@ measurement 1
END LC_MEASUREMENT
LC_NAME
-name_fmt "<U0025><U0064><U0025><U0074><U0025><U0067><U0025><U0074>/
-<U0025><U006D><U0025><U0074><U0025><U0066>"
+copy "de_DE"
END LC_NAME
LC_ADDRESS
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* Re: Possible improvements on German locales
2016-04-11 19:00 ` Mike Frysinger
@ 2016-04-13 6:27 ` Matthias Dieter Wallnöfer
2016-04-13 15:13 ` Mike Frysinger
0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Matthias Dieter Wallnöfer @ 2016-04-13 6:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: libc-locales
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Okay, reworked de_AT patch.
Mike Frysinger schrieb:
> On 11 Apr 2016 18:12, Wallnoefer, Matthias wrote:
>> Something like these two patches. You may ignore the date part in de_AT.
> ignoring the date_fmt change, these look fine to me
> -mike
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* Re: Possible improvements on German locales
2016-04-13 6:27 ` Matthias Dieter Wallnöfer
@ 2016-04-13 15:13 ` Mike Frysinger
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From: Mike Frysinger @ 2016-04-13 15:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Matthias Dieter Wallnöfer; +Cc: libc-locales
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i've merged both now. thanks!
-mike
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