From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 95991 invoked by alias); 19 Jan 2016 01:30:49 -0000 Mailing-List: contact libc-locales-help@sourceware.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: libc-locales-owner@sourceware.org Received: (qmail 39682 invoked by uid 48); 19 Jan 2016 00:00:47 -0000 From: "van.de.bugger at gmail dot com" To: libc-locales@sourceware.org Subject: [Bug localedata/10871] ru_RU: 'mon' array should contain both nominative and genitive cases Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2016 01:30:00 -0000 X-Bugzilla-Reason: AssignedTo X-Bugzilla-Type: changed X-Bugzilla-Watch-Reason: None X-Bugzilla-Product: glibc X-Bugzilla-Component: localedata X-Bugzilla-Version: unspecified X-Bugzilla-Keywords: X-Bugzilla-Severity: critical X-Bugzilla-Who: van.de.bugger at gmail dot com X-Bugzilla-Status: NEW X-Bugzilla-Resolution: X-Bugzilla-Priority: P2 X-Bugzilla-Assigned-To: libc-locales at sourceware dot org X-Bugzilla-Target-Milestone: --- X-Bugzilla-Flags: security- X-Bugzilla-Changed-Fields: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Bugzilla-URL: http://sourceware.org/bugzilla/ Auto-Submitted: auto-generated MIME-Version: 1.0 X-SW-Source: 2016-q1/txt/msg00058.txt.bz2 https://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D10871 --- Comment #37 from van.de.bugger at gmail dot com --- (In reply to Kalle Olavi Niemitalo from comment #36) > In Finnish, most of those end with "tai", and their cases have simple > suffixes. However, "keskiviikko" (Wednesday) is different. It means messages containing weekday names cannot be easily localized throug strftime format string: "%An" gives genitive case for all weekdays but Wednesday. > Are programmers or translators asking glibc to support any variants of > weekday names other than what it already has? But today we have *only* nominative case, which is not enough for Russian language (at least). "%B" (month name in nominative case) is ok for month heading in calendar application, but "%d %B %Y" looks ugly because in this phrase month name should be in genitive case. However, if we change "mon" t= able in ru_RU locale definition to have month names in genitive cases to fix "%d= %B %Y", we break "%B".=20 So yes, at least few programmers/translators are asking for more. However, = we can't get agreement on how much grammatical cases we want to have. Some guys here think two cases is enough while I believe we should not create artific= ial limits =E2=80=94 let us have as many grammatical cases as required for the = language. > =E2=80=A6This > assumes that the strftime format string is made localizable, but that sho= uld > be done in any case because I don't see how a programmer could choose the > correct grammatical cases without knowing the language.=20 You get the point. --=20 You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.