[Bug localedata/11484] new Bulgarian locale

[Bug localedata/11484] new Bulgarian locale

[drepper.fsp at gmail dot com]

http://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=11484

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--- Comment #8 from Ulrich Drepper <drepper.fsp at gmail dot com> 2011-05-10 03:26:11 UTC ---
Again, why should the existing locale be replaced?  You have to get the author
of the existing locale to agree.

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--- Comment #10 from Roumen Petrov <bugtrack at roumenpetrov dot info> 2011-05-10 20:13:43 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #8)
> Again, why should the existing locale be replaced?  You have to get the author
> of the existing locale to agree.

Please see post http://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=9865#c3 .
About attachments to this issue - it is new work and I would like to maintain
in the future.

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version 3.0.3 with license update

Updated license following recent discussion on libc-locales mailing list with
subject "Many locale definitions need license change"

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--- Comment #11 from Roumen Petrov <bugtrack at roumenpetrov dot info> 2011-05-10 22:23:50 UTC ---
It seems to me I forgot to post what's new . 

The new version follow up
http://zver.fsa-bg.org/pipermail/dict/2010-March/004652.html - a long
discussion about some issues with Bulgarian locale .

For public discussion version 3.0.1 was posted here
http://zver.fsa-bg.org/pipermail/dict/2010-March/004743.html :

A) brief description of updates.
а) new author, copyright and contacts
b)  LC_IDENTIFICATION
- new contacts
- category compatible with IEC_TR_14652/2002
c) LC_CTYPE
- no change
d) LC_COLLATE
- removed all extra collating sequences. Version 3.0.2 add "Capital letters go
before small" on request.
d) LC_MONETARY
- no grouping, no thousand separator
- currency with dot at end
е) LC_NUMERIC
- no grouping, no thousand separator . БДС ISO 31-0:1994 allow groping but is
is not common
f) LC_TIME
- rewritten. see below for details
g) LC_MESSAGES
- no change
h) LC_PAPER
- no change
i) LC_NAME
- names with abbreviated profession, i.e. %S instead %s
- abbreviation correspondind for mr. is with correct representation.
j) LC_ADDRESS
- country_name and lang_name in Bulgarian
- postal address accordind to the norm of "Bulgarian Post"
k) LC_TELEPHONE
- without brace for domestic and international calls
l) LC_MEASUREMENT
- no change

B) date and time description (LC_TIME)
- description of era format
- colon instead comma as time separator (preferred  format discussed in the
first link above)
- clock time is in 24h format. Current version is ambiguous as describe 12h
format without corresponding abbreviation for am/pm.



New time output (for  1h 2m and 3s  and for 13h 2m и 3s. for the flag %r):
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
01:02:03 and 13:02:03
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Current is:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
   1,02,03 and  1,02,03
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

- rearranged days and month is date format 
New date output:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
2010-04-01 13:02:03:    четвъртък  1 април 2010 13:02:03 EEST
+%c                     чт  1 апр 2010 13:02:03 EEST
+%x (date)               1.04.2010
+%X (time)              13:02:03
+%y (s-year)            10
+%Y (year)              2010
+%Ec (+era)             чт  1 апр 2010 сл.н.е. 13:02:03 EEST
+%Ex (date+era)          1.04.2010 сл.н.е.
+%EX (time+era)         13:02:03
+%Ey (s-year+era)       2010
+%EY (year+era)         2010 сл.н.е.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Current is:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
2010-04-01 13:02:03:    чт апр  1 13:02:03 EEST 2010
+%c                      1.04.2010 (чт) 13,02,03 EEST
+%x (date)               1.04.2010
+%X (time)              13,02,03
+%y (s-year)            10
+%Y (year)              2010
+%Ec (+era)              1.04.2010 (чт) 13,02,03 EEST
+%Ex (date+era)          1.04.2010
+%EX (time+era)         13,02,03
+%Ey (s-year+era)       10
+%EY (year+era)         2010
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--- Comment #12 from Ulrich Drepper <drepper.fsp at gmail dot com> 2011-05-10 22:53:43 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #11)
> +%EY (year+era)         2010 сл.н.е.

And there is already a problem.  You're completely overdoing it.  Eras are
pretty much only for Japan and nothing else.


There are drastic changes.  I understand you cannot get the previous maintainer
to comment.  But I need assurance.  Did you announce the availability of the
locale, have people test it, and report back?  I have nothing else to get by.

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--- Comment #13 from Roumen Petrov <bugtrack at roumenpetrov dot info> 2011-05-13 19:47:46 UTC ---
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C program to test locale

The post for version 3.0.1(see link above) contain some tests. This is first
test.

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--- Comment #14 from Roumen Petrov <bugtrack at roumenpetrov dot info> 2011-05-13 19:53:54 UTC ---
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simple shecl script to test locale

second test from above post

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--- Comment #15 from Roumen Petrov <bugtrack at roumenpetrov dot info> 2011-05-13 19:57:23 UTC ---
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perl script to test cyrillic sort

I'm not perl expert and script will warn "Wide character in print at
./test-sort.pl line 4."  but the last line is expected result.

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shell script to test sort of punctuation+latin+cyrillic characters

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--- Comment #17 from Roumen Petrov <bugtrack at roumenpetrov dot info> 2011-05-13 20:08:47 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #12)
> (In reply to comment #11)
> > +%EY (year+era)         2010 сл.н.е.
> 
> And there is already a problem.  You're completely overdoing it.  Eras are
> pretty much only for Japan and nothing else.

Why ? But AIX according to the internet pages define christian era (search for 
ibm aix localdef lctime). The definition look like:
era "+:0:0000/01/01:+*:AD:%o %N";\
"+:1:-0001/12/31:-*:BC:%o %N"
era_year ""
era_d_fmt "" 

Many Bulgarian prefer neutral definition for New(Common) Era the file contain
neutral abbreviations.

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--- Comment #18 from Roumen Petrov <bugtrack at roumenpetrov dot info> 2011-11-11 00:04:30 UTC ---
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version 3.0.4

day in month and month without leading zero or space

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--- Comment #19 from Roumen Petrov <bugtrack at roumenpetrov dot info> 2012-04-06 20:33:18 UTC ---
*** Bug 13237 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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--- Comment #20 from Roumen Petrov <bugtrack at roumenpetrov dot info> 2012-04-06 20:37:27 UTC ---
*** Bug 13949 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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--- Comment #21 from Roumen Petrov <bugtrack at roumenpetrov dot info> 2012-04-06 21:13:56 UTC ---
Created attachment 6329
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update 'Bulgarian translators team' email

"Bulgarian translators team"  use new list address.
Post to dict@fsa-bg.org(old one)  are redirected  to dict@ludost.net (new one).

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[Bug localedata/11484] new Bulgarian locale

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--- Comment #22 from Petr Baudis <pasky at ucw dot cz> 2012-04-13 18:06:42 UTC ---
I think Ulrich's questions are valid - these are very significant changes and
you should get endorsement by the Bulgarian user community first.

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--- Comment #23 from Roumen Petrov <bugtrack at roumenpetrov dot info> 2012-04-14 11:24:02 UTC ---
I get consensus from bulgarian community  . Since mail list was changed (moved
to new host) , link to arhive 
http://zver.fsa-bg.org/pipermail/dict/2010-March/004652.html is not valid.
The discussions related to bg locale  are still available on list-mirrors.

Quick review show that content of non existing 
  "http://zver.fsa-bg.org/pipermail/dict/2010-March/004652.html"
 could be found on
 
"http://bulgarian-translators-of-free-software.1048928.n5.nabble.com/3-0-1-tt4356742.html#none"
 (13 posts) -  version 3.0.1. 
Version is based on discussion from :
 
"http://bulgarian-translators-of-free-software.1048928.n5.nabble.com/-tt4356508.html"
 (63 posts) and some earlier posts.

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--- Comment #24 from Roumen Petrov <bugtrack at roumenpetrov dot info> 2012-12-01 16:19:59 UTC ---
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restore previous copyrights

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--- Comment #25 from Roumen Petrov <bugtrack at roumenpetrov dot info> ---
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version 3.0.7

uploaded v3.0.7 with correct specification of category

( also include useless upstream fix for lang_lib as by definition if is not set
is used  value of lang_term )

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--- Comment #26 from Mike Frysinger <vapier at gentoo dot org> ---
there's a ton going on here, and bg_BG has been updated since.  let's distill
the changes down.  we really don't want to see fully new locale files with tons
of extraneous noise (like specs in the comments) added.

some of these updates we'll just have to go with for now until we can get the
details out of CLDR.

* LC_COLLATE ... i'll just go with this one.

* LC_MONETARY
  -mon_thousands_sep         "<U00A0>"
  +mon_thousands_sep         ""
  -mon_grouping              3;3
  +mon_grouping              -1
  -grouping                  3;3
  +grouping                  -1

* LC_TIME
  -d_t_fmt "%x (%a) %X %Z"
  +d_t_fmt "%a %-d %b %Y %T %Z"

  -d_fmt "%e.%m.%Y"
  +d_fmt "%-d.%-m.%Y"

  -t_fmt "%k:%M:%S"
  +t_fmt "%T"

  +era "+:0:0/1/1:+*:сл.н.е.:%Ey %EC";/
  +    "+:0:-1/12/31:-*:пр.н.е.:%Ey %EC"
  +date_fmt   "%A %-d %B %Y %T %Z"
  +era_d_t_fmt    "%a %-d %b %EY %T %Z"
  +era_d_fmt      "%-d.%-m.%EY"

  +cal_direction 2

These LC_TIME settings are wrong for sure:
  -week 7;19971130;4
  +week 7;19971201;1
  -first_weekday 2
  +first_weekday 1
  +first_workday 1

* LC_NAME
  -name_fmt  "%s%t%g%t %m%t%f"
  +name_fmt  "%S%t%g%t %m%t%f"
  -name_mr   "г-дин"
  +name_mr   "г-н"

* LC_ADDRESS
  -postal_fmt "%f%N%a%N%d%N%b%N%sN%h, %e, %r%N%z %T%N%c%N"
  +postal_fmt "%a%N%f%N%d%N%b%N%s %h, %e, %r%N%z %T%N%c%N"

* LC_TELEPHONE
  -tel_int_fmt "(+%c %a) %l"
  +tel_int_fmt "+%c %a %l"
  -tel_dom_fmt "(0%a) %l"
  +tel_dom_fmt "0%a %l"

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To this issue will be attached file with new locale settings for Bulgarian. This
is new work intended non-maintained file.

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           Summary: new Bulgarian locale
           Product: glibc
           Version: 2.11
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P2
         Component: localedata
        AssignedTo: libc-locales at sources dot redhat dot com
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Created an attachment (id=4714)
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new Bulgarian locale

I would like to propose existing file (bg_BG) to be removed first from
repository and after this new work to be added to repository.

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------- Additional Comments From drepper at redhat dot com  2010-04-11 04:21 -------
You have to get the previous maintainer to agree with that.

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Re: [Bug localedata/11484] new Bulgarian locale

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Hello Urlich,

drepper at redhat dot com wrote:
> ------- Additional Comments From drepper at redhat dot com  2010-04-11 04:21 -------
> You have to get the previous maintainer to agree with that.

Why you don't like to accept what is accepted by Bulgarian linux community ?
Now I maintain Bulgarian locale and you could contact us on email 
addresses indicated in file attached to issue 11484.

Regards,
Roumen

[Bug localedata/11484] new Bulgarian locale

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------- Additional Comments From pasky at suse dot cz  2010-04-21 21:26 -------
It would be great to have at least some general summary of changes compared to
the original locale.

It seems it would be good idea to remove the generic comments about formats of
various attributes and keep only locale-specific comments. The same goes for
comments containing plaintext versions of attribute values.

Your weekday abbreviations are wrong - if you specify Monday in week directive,
the first day in the list must be Monday.

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------- Additional Comments From bugtrack at roumenpetrov dot info  2010-04-21 22:49 -------
If I understand  ISO/IEC TR14652:2002 properly if week start with Monday the
lists with weekday names should start with Monday, but for GNU libc the lists
must start with Sunday.


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------- Additional Comments From pasky at suse dot cz  2010-04-22 05:10 -------
Hmm, you are right that strftime() does not honor week[2], I will have to fix
that sometime *sigh*. In that case, it would probably be better to keep
week[2]==19971130 and set first_weekday to 2, to have everything set up
consistently.

Anyway, trying to compile the locale throws a huge bunch of warnings.

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------- Additional Comments From bugtrack at roumenpetrov dot info  2010-04-22 21:25 -------
About warnings no idea as my GNU glibc is ld version (2.7) and on other locales
result is same as example:
bg_BG:27: non-symbolic character value should not be used
but line 27 is:
title      "Bulgarian locale for Bulgaria"

About:
LC_NAME: field `name_gen' not defined
  No salutation to all persons in Bulgarian. So what is correct : do not define
or to define to empty string with comment "No salutation ..." ?

LC_IDENTIFICATION: field `abbreviation' not defined
  What to set to this field BG-<VERSION> ? I don't know . It is defined only for
uk_UA (ULU-2.1.12) and and en_ZA("Translate.org.za).

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------- Additional Comments From pasky at suse dot cz  2010-06-01 02:47 -------
*** Bug 9865 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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