From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 118042 invoked by alias); 7 May 2019 09:41:27 -0000 Mailing-List: contact libc-locales-help@sourceware.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: libc-locales-owner@sourceware.org Received: (qmail 117804 invoked by uid 48); 7 May 2019 09:41:22 -0000 From: "superherowolverine-sourcewareorg at yahoo dot com" To: libc-locales@sourceware.org Subject: [Bug localedata/14085] en_NL: new locale (English language for the Netherlands) Date: Tue, 07 May 2019 09:41:00 -0000 X-Bugzilla-Reason: CC X-Bugzilla-Type: changed X-Bugzilla-Watch-Reason: None X-Bugzilla-Product: glibc X-Bugzilla-Component: localedata X-Bugzilla-Version: unspecified X-Bugzilla-Keywords: X-Bugzilla-Severity: enhancement X-Bugzilla-Who: superherowolverine-sourcewareorg at yahoo dot com X-Bugzilla-Status: RESOLVED X-Bugzilla-Resolution: WONTFIX X-Bugzilla-Priority: P2 X-Bugzilla-Assigned-To: unassigned at sourceware dot org X-Bugzilla-Target-Milestone: --- X-Bugzilla-Flags: security- X-Bugzilla-Changed-Fields: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Bugzilla-URL: http://sourceware.org/bugzilla/ Auto-Submitted: auto-generated MIME-Version: 1.0 X-SW-Source: 2019-q2/txt/msg00038.txt.bz2 https://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D14085 --- Comment #15 from Robertino --- https://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D12624#c3 : QUOTE Accepting any such special-interest locale would open a flood. There is no reason to have such a locale in glibc. The localedef utility is standardiz= ed for a reason: locales can be compiled by anyone. Just create a RPM or whatever which upon installation installs the files and compiles the locale with localedef. UNQUOTE Adding "en_non-en" locales is not flooding. Let's see what flooding is. Somehow some people seem to forget that the EU (as we know it now) is a rea= lity since 1993. There are 24 official languages of the European Union. And 19 EU member states. There is an internal single market in the EU where by law all member states have agreed to act as one. Also, EU policies further the free movement of **people**, goods, services and capital within this internal market. Yes also people. Has/Is anyone In The Netherlands working for a company that has Linux deskt= op computers in their network and employs English speaking permies or English speaking freelancers using those Linux computers? And where more often than not one of the job requirements for native Dutch speakers is : good (or better) written and spoken English. Because of the m= ix of nationalities within the company. We are the USE (United States of Europ= e) after all. Has/Is anyone working for one of the many Japanese companies in The Netherlands, where speaking and writing English is mandatory? Has/Is anyone working for a company where Windows sysadmins keep Linux desk= tops and laptops off their network and out the door because of locale issues? Although staff would prefer to use Linux on the dersktop. Some of the companies in The Netherlands that I worked as a freelance contractor that had and still have many English speaking freelancers/permie= s : ING Bank, ABN AMRO Bank, RABO Bank, MUFG Bank (nee Bank of Tokyo Mitsubishi UFJ), Canon Europe BV, Kyocera Mita Europe, Cygnific BV (Air France-KLM's worldwide support), XS4ALL BV (best ISP ever). They all refuse Linux deskto= ps for this locale issue. ING Bank encountered major issues after they decided to build their new call center software on Linux (server and desktop). As you guess the issues were about locales on the desktop. Yes, they had to roll their own locales. I'm still grateful that I did not work on that mope and grope project. That was= in late 2008. You expect us to keep rinsing and repeating the ING effort almost 11 years later? Almost 26 years after the beginning of the EU ? Thanks for adding the Euro-sign though. It shaved 2 seconds off the work to create a new locale. Hail Windows and Hail MacOS for putting in a genuinine effort to conquer the desktop. Doh! Oops! --=20 You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.