From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 21745 invoked by alias); 20 Jun 2014 07:28:44 -0000 Mailing-List: contact libc-locales-help@sourceware.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: libc-locales-owner@sourceware.org Received: (qmail 22098 invoked by uid 55); 20 Jun 2014 06:16:45 -0000 From: "bugdal at aerifal dot cx" To: libc-locales@sourceware.org Subject: [Bug localedata/14641] Deprecate name_fmt Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2014 07:28:00 -0000 X-Bugzilla-Reason: CC X-Bugzilla-Type: changed X-Bugzilla-Watch-Reason: None X-Bugzilla-Product: glibc X-Bugzilla-Component: localedata X-Bugzilla-Version: unspecified X-Bugzilla-Keywords: X-Bugzilla-Severity: enhancement X-Bugzilla-Who: bugdal at aerifal dot cx X-Bugzilla-Status: REOPENED X-Bugzilla-Priority: P2 X-Bugzilla-Assigned-To: unassigned at sourceware dot org X-Bugzilla-Target-Milestone: --- X-Bugzilla-Flags: security- X-Bugzilla-Changed-Fields: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Bugzilla-URL: http://sourceware.org/bugzilla/ Auto-Submitted: auto-generated MIME-Version: 1.0 X-SW-Source: 2014-q2/txt/msg00188.txt.bz2 https://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=14641 --- Comment #20 from Rich Felker --- On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 05:48:35AM +0000, keld at keldix dot com wrote: > The LC_NAME (and LC_ADDTESS) category addresses a real need for providing > culturally acceptable software. Really many cultures use the Family name, > first name convention, which is offending to me for my name. The world is > rather > split in two halves on the order of given name and family name. That's the naive and mistaken view that resulted in the creation of LC_NAME/name_fmt to begin with. In reality there are a lot more conventions than just these two, but the prevalence of information systems that require names to be stored as a first/given name and a last/family name seems to have made their existence much less visible. Here are some other cultural conventions: - Only one name. Attempting to force these into a given/family pattern is offensive and results in things like being assigned a "first name" of "FNU" and having your given name treated as a family name. - Multiple names, but all given. Attempting to force these into a given/family pattern is almost always offensive because it will result in things like "Mr./Ms. Second-name", presenting a name backwards as "Second-name First-name", etc. - Multiple family names. I don't even know how this is typically handled. Wikipedia has some detailed coverage of the issues: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_name http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mononymous_person -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.