From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 19316 invoked by alias); 6 Mar 2014 21:47:57 -0000 Mailing-List: contact libc-locales-help@sourceware.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: libc-locales-owner@sourceware.org Received: (qmail 3371 invoked by uid 48); 6 Mar 2014 20:23:11 -0000 From: "byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca" To: libc-locales@sourceware.org Subject: [Bug localedata/16668] ISO date time format localedef needed for en_CA Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2014 21:47:00 -0000 X-Bugzilla-Reason: CC X-Bugzilla-Type: changed X-Bugzilla-Watch-Reason: None X-Bugzilla-Product: glibc X-Bugzilla-Component: localedata X-Bugzilla-Version: unspecified X-Bugzilla-Keywords: X-Bugzilla-Severity: normal X-Bugzilla-Who: byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca X-Bugzilla-Status: NEW X-Bugzilla-Priority: P2 X-Bugzilla-Assigned-To: unassigned at sourceware dot org X-Bugzilla-Target-Milestone: --- X-Bugzilla-Flags: X-Bugzilla-Changed-Fields: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Bugzilla-URL: http://sourceware.org/bugzilla/ Auto-Submitted: auto-generated MIME-Version: 1.0 X-SW-Source: 2014-q1/txt/msg00052.txt.bz2 https://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=16668 --- Comment #6 from James B. Byrne --- (In reply to Carlos O'Donell from comment #4) > (In reply to James B. Byrne from comment #0) > > This is an ongoing problem whose resolution seems stymied by an intransigent > > maintainer. See bug: Bug 12731 and Bug 9842. > > As a Canadian my opinion is that Ulrich is wrong. Most Canadians expect that > the date today should be written as 2014-02-06, and not anything else that > is used by American geographies. > > > % Original date format (%m/%d/%Y) > > %d_fmt "" > > > > % Custom date format (%Y-%b-%d) > > d_fmt "" > > Thus this change is going to be OK and I will make this change immediately > after gathering consensus from the distribution maintainers on the > development list. > > > % Original time format %r (%H:%M:%S am|pm) > > %t_fmt "" > > %am_pm "";"" > > %t_fmt_ampm > > " > >" > > > > % 24 hour time %T (HH:mm:ss) no am/pm. > > t_fmt "" > > am_pm "";"" > > t_fmt_ampm "" > > This change is not OK. The average Canadian still expects 12 hour clocks > with am and pm. Therefore this change should not be made. > > > Is their any reason why supplemental en_CA@ISO and fr_CA@ISO localdefs > > should not be provided with glibc as an alternative for those of us > > 'no-ones' that have a requirement to use ISO format dates and times and are > > not conversant with hand encoding data into UTF-8? > > That is an excellent recommendation. > > Would you accept an en_CA@ISO locale for official compliance with ISO8901? > > That would not require any consensus from the distribution maintainers > except to ask that they acknowledge their support for the new locale. > > Comments? Two additional xx_CA@ISO locales that implemented strict ISO8601 would be my preferred option. I completely support NOT changing the established default behaviour of anything that causes inexplicable changes visible to end-users. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.