From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 92817 invoked by alias); 20 May 2016 12:44:03 -0000 Mailing-List: contact libc-locales-help@sourceware.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: libc-locales-owner@sourceware.org Received: (qmail 80435 invoked by uid 48); 20 May 2016 12:37:44 -0000 From: "dwmw2 at infradead dot org" To: libc-locales@sourceware.org Subject: [Bug localedata/4628] Provide rump locales with ISO 8601 variants for use with LC_TIME Date: Fri, 20 May 2016 12:44:00 -0000 X-Bugzilla-Reason: AssignedTo X-Bugzilla-Type: changed X-Bugzilla-Watch-Reason: None X-Bugzilla-Product: glibc X-Bugzilla-Component: localedata X-Bugzilla-Version: unspecified X-Bugzilla-Keywords: X-Bugzilla-Severity: normal X-Bugzilla-Who: dwmw2 at infradead dot org X-Bugzilla-Status: REOPENED X-Bugzilla-Resolution: X-Bugzilla-Priority: P2 X-Bugzilla-Assigned-To: libc-locales at sourceware dot org X-Bugzilla-Target-Milestone: --- X-Bugzilla-Flags: security- X-Bugzilla-Changed-Fields: cc Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Bugzilla-URL: http://sourceware.org/bugzilla/ Auto-Submitted: auto-generated MIME-Version: 1.0 X-SW-Source: 2016-q2/txt/msg00272.txt.bz2 https://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D4628 David Woodhouse changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |dwmw2 at infradead dot org --- Comment #7 from David Woodhouse --- In the 21st century where international communication is instant and freque= nt, colloquial use is changing. To use the parochial local date forms, especially mm/dd/yy and dd/mm/yy, is= no longer really acceptable in much of our day-to-day communication. To use them in a context where they are seen outside your own locale is impolite and unprofessional, and basically marks you as an idiot. Even using them in the *local* context, the recipients still need to stop a= nd think about who you are and to whom you were speaking, to work out if this really is "local form" or whether you're just another idiot from further af= ield who can't be bothered to communicate properly. (If a European sends email t= o an American and CC's another European, what does '5/6/16' mean? Just don't do = it.) I think there is a strong case not only for defining something like @ISO versions of all the locales, but also for distributions to select those by *default*. Much as we did a number of years ago for UTF-8. The colloquial u= se was changing then too... it's just that some people were dragged along kick= ing and screaming by the change of the default :) This is one of the cases where we need to *help* the colloquial use change faster than it already is. --=20 You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.