From: Rich Felker <dalias@aerifal.cx>
To: "Maciej W. Rozycki" <macro@codesourcery.com>
Cc: libc-ports@sourceware.org, libc-alpha@sourceware.org,
Doug Gilmore <Doug.Gilmore@imgtec.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH] MIPS: IEEE 754-2008 NaN encoding support
Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2013 04:10:00 -0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130823041028.GQ20515@brightrain.aerifal.cx> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.1.10.1308230213040.8514@tp.orcam.me.uk>
On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 02:41:21AM +0100, Maciej W. Rozycki wrote:
> > > As from revision 3.50 [2][3] the MIPS Architecture provides for
> > > processors that support the IEEE 754-2008 preferred NaN encoding format.
> > > As the two formats (further referred to as "legacy NaN" and "2008 NaN")
> > > are incompatible to each other, tools will have to provide support for the
> > > two formats to help people avoid using incompatible binary modules. Here
> > > is the glibc part.
> >
> > Can you elaborate on why you think this is an ABI issue? IMO it's just
> > s runtime issue unless you're considering raw floating point data
> > written to disk. In any case this seems like such a small issue that
> > it should just be silently fixed, rather than adding huge amounts of
> > ABI ugliness.
>
> To give you a small example this:
>
> double foo = __builtin_nan ("");
>
> will compile to a different data pattern with opposite (qNaN vs sNaN)
> semantics depending on the NaN encoding mode selected in the compiler.
> Modules built with different NaN encodings are therefore not compatible,
> either at the link or at the load time, as applicable. LD (from binutils)
> and ld.so take care of the link-time and the load-time integrity check,
> respectively.
If you really care about supporting this, I have an alternate idea
that doesn't lead to incompatible ABIs. Have GCC put static objects
containing NANs in the writable data section, and add a new R_MIPS_NAN
relocation type that flips the high bit of the NAN to match the
runtime environment. The only difficulty would be making it work with
static linking; you could choose to just have the static linker
resolve all static objects containing NANs to a single, fixed NAN
format at link time, or have some startup code to process them.
For __builtin_nan() that's not used as a constant expression for
initializing static objects, GCC can just generate a call to libgcc,
or direct access to a global object, to flip the high bit
appropriately.
Rich
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-08-23 4:10 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-08-22 23:53 Maciej W. Rozycki
2013-08-23 0:58 ` Rich Felker
2013-08-23 1:41 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2013-08-23 1:57 ` Rich Felker
2013-08-23 3:11 ` pinskia
2013-08-23 3:38 ` Rich Felker
2013-08-23 4:08 ` pinskia
2013-08-23 4:12 ` Rich Felker
2013-08-23 4:10 ` Rich Felker [this message]
2013-08-23 3:46 ` Rich Felker
2013-08-23 10:53 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2013-08-23 15:26 ` Joseph S. Myers
2013-09-05 22:47 ` [RFC][PATCH v2] " Maciej W. Rozycki
2013-09-06 16:24 ` Joseph S. Myers
2013-09-10 9:36 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2013-09-10 23:24 ` Joseph S. Myers
2013-09-16 15:14 ` [PATCH v3] " Maciej W. Rozycki
2013-09-16 15:26 ` Joseph S. Myers
2013-09-18 20:48 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
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