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From: "Carlos O'Donell" <carlos@redhat.com>
To: Siddhesh Poyarekar <siddhesh@redhat.com>
Cc: "Ondřej Bílka" <neleai@seznam.cz>,
	"Will Newton" <will.newton@linaro.org>,
	"libc-ports@sourceware.org" <libc-ports@sourceware.org>,
	"Patch Tracking" <patches@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] sysdeps/arm/armv7/multiarch/memcpy_impl.S: Improve performance.
Date: Wed, 04 Sep 2013 15:30:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <52275216.30008@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130904073008.GA4306@spoyarek.pnq.redhat.com>

On 09/04/2013 03:30 AM, Siddhesh Poyarekar wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 03, 2013 at 03:15:25PM -0400, Carlos O'Donell wrote:
>> I agree. The eventual goal of the project is to have some kind of
>> whole system benchmarking that allows users to feed in their profiles
>> and allow us as developers to see what users are doing with our library.
>>
>> Just like CPU designers feed in a whole distribution of applications
>> and look at the probability of instruction selection and tweak instruction
>> to microcode mappings.
>>
>> I am willing to accept a certain error in the process as long as I know
>> we are headed in the right direction. If we all disagree about the
>> direction we are going in then we should talk about it.
>>
>> I see:
>>
>> microbenchmarks -> whole system benchmarks -> profile driven optimizations
> 
> I've mentioned this before - microbenchmarks are not a way to whole
> system benchmarks in that they don't replace system benchmarks.  We
> need to work on both in parallel because both have different goals.

Sorry, my ASCII graph was misleading, and I agree with you.

What I meant to say is that we need to walk before we run.
Creating a microbenchmark framework will give us the tools
we need to move on to whole system benchmarks and eventually
to profile driven optimizations. We will continue to do all
3 of these activities once we reach the end of that logical
progression.

Cheers,
Carlos.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-09-04 15:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-08-12  7:55 Will Newton
2013-08-27  7:46 ` Will Newton
2013-08-30 17:14   ` Carlos O'Donell
2013-08-30 18:48     ` Will Newton
2013-08-30 19:26       ` Carlos O'Donell
2013-09-02 14:18         ` Will Newton
2013-09-03 16:14           ` Carlos O'Donell
     [not found]         ` <CANu=DmhA9QvSe6RS72Db2P=yyjC72fsE8d4QZKHEcNiwqxNMvw@mail.gmail.com>
2013-09-02 14:18           ` benchmark improvements (Was: Re: [PATCH] sysdeps/arm/armv7/multiarch/memcpy_impl.S: Improve performance.) Siddhesh Poyarekar
2013-09-03 13:46             ` Will Newton
2013-09-03 17:48               ` Ondřej Bílka
2013-09-02 19:57           ` [PATCH] sysdeps/arm/armv7/multiarch/memcpy_impl.S: Improve performance Ondřej Bílka
2013-09-03 16:18           ` Carlos O'Donell
2013-09-03 17:37             ` Ondřej Bílka
2013-09-03 17:52               ` Carlos O'Donell
2013-09-03 18:57                 ` Ondřej Bílka
2013-09-03 19:15                   ` Carlos O'Donell
2013-09-04  7:27                     ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2013-09-04 11:03                       ` Ondřej Bílka
2013-09-04 11:43                         ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2013-09-04 17:37                         ` Ryan S. Arnold
2013-09-05  8:04                           ` Ondřej Bílka
2013-09-04 15:30                       ` Carlos O'Donell [this message]
2013-09-04 17:35                       ` Ryan S. Arnold
2013-09-05 11:07                         ` Ondřej Bílka
2013-09-05 11:54                         ` Joseph S. Myers
2013-09-03 19:34               ` Ryan S. Arnold
2013-09-07 11:55                 ` Ondřej Bílka
2013-09-03 19:31             ` Ryan S. Arnold
2013-09-03 19:54               ` Carlos O'Donell
2013-09-03 20:56                 ` Ryan S. Arnold
2013-09-03 23:29                   ` Ondřej Bílka
2013-09-03 23:31                   ` Carlos O'Donell
2013-09-03 22:27               ` Ondřej Bílka
2013-08-29 23:58 ` Joseph S. Myers
2013-08-30 14:56   ` Will Newton
2013-08-30 15:18     ` Joseph S. Myers
2013-08-30 18:46       ` Will Newton

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