On 07/12/20 12:36 -0800, Keith Packard wrote: >Jonathan Wakely writes: > >> GCC changelog files are autogenerated now, so patches should not touch >> them. Just include the ChangeLog entry in the Git commit log (which >> will usually end up being quoted in the patch and/or the email body of >> the mail to gcc-patches). > >Awesome. > >> I think the right way to do this (or at least, the way that was >> intended when basic_file_stdio.cc was added) is to provide a new file >> and change GLIBCXX_ENABLE_CSTDIO in acinclude.m4 to use that new file. >> >> The two biggest downsides of that are that it duplicates a lot of the >> file (because the diffs for your changes are small) and that the >> correct name for your new file is already taken! > >I can definitely see a reason to use a separate file when implementing >the basic_file interface on top of something other than stdio, but >this patch doesn't do that -- it only changes the interaction between >basic_file and stdio in a few places. > >I think it makes the best long-term sense to leave everything in >basic_file_stdio.cc and avoid having the two implementations diverge in >the future. > >> However, it's rather late in the GCC 11 process to make a change like >> that (even though it's really just renaming some files). Would you be >> OK waiting until after GCC 11 is released (in 4-5 months) to do it >> "properly"? Is this blocking something that would require doing it >> sooner? > >This patch enables the use of C++ with picolibc, a libc designed for 32- >and 64- bit embedded systems. > >Right now, I'm working on getting picolibc support integrated into >Zephyr, which uses toolchains build by crosstool-ng. I've gotten >picolibc support merged to crosstool-ng, but the Zephyr developers are >interested in having a single toolchain support three different libc >implementations (newlib, newlib-nano and picolibc), but that's blocked >on having C++ support available in all three libraries. > >So, you're at the bottom of my current dependency graph :-) > >I don't particularly need this released in gcc, but I would like to >get patches reviewed and the general approach agreed on so that I can >feel more confident in preparing patches to be applied to gcc in >crosstool-ng itself. > >Once that's done, I'll also be able to release new Debian packages of >GCC for embedded ARM and RISC-V and have those include suitable patches >so that we can support embedded C++ development there too. OK. In principle, changes to avoid using the POSIX APIs are definitely fine. I would like to combine your new configure switch with the existing --enable-cstdio one though. How about the attached change for acinclude.m4 which would allow you to do --enable-cstdio=stdio_pure? (It also adds "stdio_posix" as a more accurate alternative spelling of the current "stdio" option.)