From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from us-smtp-delivery-124.mimecast.com (us-smtp-delivery-124.mimecast.com [63.128.21.124]) by sourceware.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A27E6398B811 for ; Tue, 22 Sep 2020 11:40:51 +0000 (GMT) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 sourceware.org A27E6398B811 Received: from mimecast-mx01.redhat.com (mimecast-mx01.redhat.com [209.132.183.4]) (Using TLS) by relay.mimecast.com with ESMTP id us-mta-406-1XkoOASQPp65dY9muOpfMw-1; Tue, 22 Sep 2020 07:40:47 -0400 X-MC-Unique: 1XkoOASQPp65dY9muOpfMw-1 Received: from smtp.corp.redhat.com (int-mx02.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.11.12]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mimecast-mx01.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2B1E99CC00; Tue, 22 Sep 2020 11:40:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from oldenburg2.str.redhat.com (ovpn-114-108.ams2.redhat.com [10.36.114.108]) by smtp.corp.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 78C0E60BF4; Tue, 22 Sep 2020 11:40:44 +0000 (UTC) From: Florian Weimer To: Ville Voutilainen Cc: Jonathan Wakely , Alejandro Colomar , gcc@gcc.gnu.org, "libstdc++" , Libc-alpha , libc-coord@lists.openwall.com Subject: Re: Expose 'array_length()' macro in References: <946e9377-0558-3adf-3eb9-38c507afe2d0@gmail.com> <874knr8qyl.fsf@oldenburg2.str.redhat.com> <875z875si2.fsf@oldenburg2.str.redhat.com> <20200921140100.GA449323@redhat.com> <20200921220443.GP6061@redhat.com> Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2020 13:40:42 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Ville Voutilainen's message of "Tue, 22 Sep 2020 01:13:57 +0300") Message-ID: <87zh5ixcn9.fsf@oldenburg2.str.redhat.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.79 on 10.5.11.12 X-Mimecast-Spam-Score: 0 X-Mimecast-Originator: redhat.com Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH, DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU, DKIM_VALID_EF, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL, SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_PASS, TXREP autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on server2.sourceware.org X-BeenThere: libstdc++@gcc.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Libstdc++ mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2020 11:40:52 -0000 * Ville Voutilainen: > Why should this be array_length and not __array_length? This is a > vendor extension, so it should use > a name that is reserved for such? In general, we use __ for glibc internals that are not intended for direct access by users. In some cases, we have non-__ identifiers that are redirected to these __ identifiers. In some cases it may be beneficial to expose vendor extensions under __ names, so that they can be used in strict standard modes, but we are quite far away from that for C++ at least. Thanks, Florian -- Red Hat GmbH, https://de.redhat.com/ , Registered seat: Grasbrunn, Commercial register: Amtsgericht Muenchen, HRB 153243, Managing Directors: Charles Cachera, Brian Klemm, Laurie Krebs, Michael O'Neill