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From: Jonathan Wakely <jwakely@redhat.com>
To: Thiago Macieira <thiago.macieira@intel.com>
Cc: Ville Voutilainen <ville.voutilainen@gmail.com>,
	Thomas Rodgers <trodgers@redhat.com>,
	libstdc++ <libstdc++@gcc.gnu.org>
Subject: Re: C++2a synchronisation inefficient in GCC 11
Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2021 17:14:59 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YD/EEzKZqyPsflTy@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5422241.zR2LmqfNYo@tjmaciei-mobl1>

On 03/03/21 09:07 -0800, Thiago Macieira via Libstdc++ wrote:
>On Wednesday, 3 March 2021 06:30:20 PST Jonathan Wakely wrote:
>> Yes, exactly. They could still do that if some additional option/macro
>> was needed to get to those new facilities though.
>>
>> My concern is that if we add a new "I know what I'm doing" option,
>> everybody defines it (because that's what blog posts and youtube
>> videos and conference talks tell them to do, because that gives them
>> the new shiny things) and then it just becomes a default.
>>
>> Maybe Qt wouldn't define it, but plenty would.
>
>Well, if you define the "void warranty" option and you break things, you get
>to keep both pieces.
>
>Another option is to fiddle with the include path.
>
>$ gcc -v -E -xc++ /dev/null
>Using built-in specs.
>[...]
>#include <...> search starts here:
> /usr/lib64/gcc/x86_64-generic-linux/10/../../../../include/c++/10
> /usr/lib64/gcc/x86_64-generic-linux/10/../../../../include/c++/10/x86_64-
>generic-linux
> /usr/lib64/gcc/x86_64-generic-linux/10/../../../../include/c++/10/backward
> /usr/lib64/gcc/x86_64-generic-linux/10/include
> /usr/local/include
> /usr/lib64/gcc/x86_64-generic-linux/10/include-fixed
> /usr/include
>
>That "backward" has always got me thinking. What if we had a command-line
>option like -fexperimental-c++ option that added the $CXXROOT/experimental

We already have an experimental sub-dir for TS headers, so you need to
pick another name. Otherwise <vector> and <experimental/vector> get
mixed up.


  reply	other threads:[~2021-03-03 17:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-02-25 22:50 Thiago Macieira
2021-02-26 11:19 ` Jonathan Wakely
2021-02-26 17:37   ` Thiago Macieira
2021-02-26 18:29     ` Jonathan Wakely
2021-02-26 19:30       ` Ville Voutilainen
2021-02-26 21:17         ` Jonathan Wakely
2021-02-26 21:18           ` Ville Voutilainen
2021-02-26 21:39             ` Jonathan Wakely
2021-02-26 18:47     ` Ville Voutilainen
2021-02-26 23:53       ` Thiago Macieira
2021-02-26 23:58         ` Ville Voutilainen
2021-02-27  0:11           ` Thiago Macieira
2021-02-27  0:18             ` Ville Voutilainen
2021-02-27  0:36               ` Thiago Macieira
2021-02-27  0:44                 ` Ville Voutilainen
2021-02-27  0:53                   ` Thiago Macieira
2021-02-27  1:03                     ` Ville Voutilainen
2021-03-03 14:30                   ` Jonathan Wakely
2021-03-03 17:07                     ` Thiago Macieira
2021-03-03 17:14                       ` Jonathan Wakely [this message]
2021-02-27  0:22             ` Marc Glisse
2021-02-27  0:30               ` Ville Voutilainen
2021-02-27  0:43               ` Thiago Macieira
2021-03-03 14:24         ` Jonathan Wakely
2021-03-03 17:12           ` Thiago Macieira
2021-02-26 15:59 ` [PATCH 1/5] std::latch: reduce internal implementation from ptrdiff_t to int Thiago Macieira
2021-02-26 15:59   ` [PATCH 2/5] Atomic __platform_wait: accept any 32-bit type, not just int Thiago Macieira
2021-03-03 14:34     ` Jonathan Wakely
2021-03-03 16:21       ` Jonathan Wakely
2021-03-03 17:27         ` Thiago Macieira
2021-03-03 17:34         ` Ville Voutilainen
2021-03-03 17:41           ` Jonathan Wakely
2021-02-26 15:59   ` [PATCH 3/5] std::__atomic_wait: don't use __detail::__waiter with futex Thiago Macieira
2021-02-26 15:59   ` [PATCH 4/5] barrier: use int instead of unsigned char for the phase state Thiago Macieira
2021-02-28 15:05     ` Hans-Peter Nilsson
2021-03-01 16:28       ` Thomas Rodgers
2021-03-01 17:24       ` Thiago Macieira
2021-03-01 17:38         ` Thomas Rodgers
2021-03-01 17:40           ` Thomas Rodgers
2021-03-01 18:06           ` Thiago Macieira
2021-03-01 19:08             ` Thomas Rodgers
2021-03-01 18:12         ` Ville Voutilainen
2021-03-01 19:44           ` Thiago Macieira
2021-03-01 20:35             ` Ville Voutilainen
2021-03-01 21:54               ` Thiago Macieira
2021-03-01 22:04                 ` Ville Voutilainen
2021-03-01 22:21                   ` Thiago Macieira
2021-03-01 22:31                     ` Ville Voutilainen
2021-03-01 22:40                       ` Thiago Macieira
2021-02-26 15:59   ` [PATCH 5/5] barrier: optimise by not having the hasher in a loop Thiago Macieira
2021-03-03 14:36     ` Jonathan Wakely
2021-02-26 18:14   ` [PATCH 1/5] std::latch: reduce internal implementation from ptrdiff_t to int Andreas Schwab
2021-02-26 19:08     ` Thiago Macieira
2021-02-26 19:31       ` Andreas Schwab
2021-02-27  0:13         ` Thiago Macieira
2021-02-28 21:31           ` Hans-Peter Nilsson
2021-03-01  8:56             ` Richard Biener
2021-03-03 14:56               ` Jonathan Wakely
2021-03-03 15:02                 ` Andreas Schwab
2021-03-03 15:10                 ` Jonathan Wakely
2021-03-03 15:37                 ` Hans-Peter Nilsson
2021-03-01 16:32             ` Thomas Rodgers
2021-03-03 14:34   ` Jonathan Wakely
2021-03-03 17:14     ` Thiago Macieira
2021-03-03 17:18       ` Jonathan Wakely
2021-02-27  1:13 ` C++2a synchronisation inefficient in GCC 11 Thomas Rodgers
2021-02-27  1:29   ` Thomas Rodgers
2021-02-27  3:01     ` Thomas Rodgers
2021-03-01 17:46       ` Thomas Rodgers
2021-03-01 18:00         ` Thiago Macieira
2021-03-01 18:34           ` Thomas Rodgers
2021-03-01 19:11             ` Thiago Macieira
2021-02-27  2:02   ` Ville Voutilainen

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