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From: Jonathan Wakely <jwakely@redhat.com>
To: unlvsur unlvsur <unlvsur@live.com>
Cc: unlvsur unlvsur via Libstdc++ <libstdc++@gcc.gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Is it possible not to use snprintf or any other stdio functionalities to throw std::logic_error in standard library containers?
Date: Thu, 20 May 2021 20:35:06 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YKa56hf4H+b0XEzo@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <DM6PR05MB4697628C7E6769B8FCDA1D6ED62A9@DM6PR05MB4697.namprd05.prod.outlook.com>

On 20/05/21 19:27 +0000, unlvsur unlvsur wrote:
>Well. It comes from snprintf. You cannot use any stdio functionalities.
>
>For example
>https://github.com/gcc-mirror/gcc/blob/4f4a2f199baf46d35492edadc16f30f32920c4df/libstdc%2B%2B-v3/include/bits/stl_vector.h#L1070

But that doesn't use snprintf.

>
>https://github.com/gcc-mirror/gcc/blob/16e2427f50c208dfe07d07f18009969502c25dc8/libstdc%2B%2B-v3/include/experimental/string_view#L274

And that doesn't use snprintf either.

Have you actually seen a dependency on stdio from these functions, or
are you just assuming?

>We need something which is a silent EH thrown, this format string thrown stuff will always introduce dependencies silently.
>
>This also hurts optimizations
>
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>
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>From: Jonathan Wakely<mailto:jwakely@redhat.com>
>Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2021 15:21
>To: Jonathan Wakely<mailto:jwakely.gcc@gmail.com>
>Cc: unlvsur unlvsur<mailto:unlvsur@live.com>; unlvsur unlvsur via Libstdc++<mailto:libstdc++@gcc.gnu.org>
>Subject: Re: Is it possible not to use snprintf or any other stdio functionalities to throw std::logic_error in standard library containers?
>
>On 15/05/21 09:23 +0100, Jonathan Wakely via Libstdc++ wrote:
>>On Sat, 15 May 2021, 04:12 unlvsur unlvsur via Libstdc++, <
>>libstdc++@gcc.gnu.org> wrote:
>>
>>> The issue is that this will silently introduce dependency to stdio. On
>>> MinGW-w64 for example, any snprintf function call will bloat binary size
>>> for 70kb, that is even we shared linking with both msvcrt and libstdc++.
>>>
>>> I frequently see a random bloat because of that.
>>>
>>> By the way, it also hurts optimizations since compilers cannot merge them
>>> together.
>>>
>>> Better just throw an exception with “vector<T> out of bounds” instead of
>>> formatting subscriptor.
>>>
>>
>>
>>I can make that depend on the _GLIBCXX_VERBOSE macro.
>
>Where is the dependency on stdio coming from though? Formatting the
>exception string doesn't use stdio.
>



  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-05-20 19:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-05-15  2:25 unlvsur unlvsur
2021-05-15  8:23 ` Jonathan Wakely
2021-05-20 19:20   ` Jonathan Wakely
     [not found]     ` <DM6PR05MB4697628C7E6769B8FCDA1D6ED62A9@DM6PR05MB4697.namprd05.prod.outlook.com>
2021-05-20 19:35       ` Jonathan Wakely [this message]
2021-05-20 19:47         ` unlvsur unlvsur
2021-05-20 19:50           ` unlvsur unlvsur
2021-05-20 20:00             ` Jonathan Wakely
2021-05-20 19:52           ` Jonathan Wakely

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