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From: "Steve McKay☄" <smckay@google.com>
To: "David Herron" <David.Herron@sun.com>
Cc: mauve-discuss@sources.redhat.com
Subject: Re: Tweaking default java.awt.Robot settings
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 21:22:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4f2ee4520709241422n5ca2cf60g8d37fb76a27d4067@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <46F8238C.8020606@sun.com>

So would you recommend I ignore the test, delete it, add a comment, ...?

--steve

On 9/24/07, David Herron <David.Herron@sun.com> wrote:
> Steve McKay☄ wrote:
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I've noticed that at least some of the tests using java.awt.Robot are
> > non-deterministic due to lags is the underlying window system. The
> > java.awt.Component.keyPressTest, for example, fails some of the time
> > (on linux, windows, linux+wine, ...). It looks like enabling
> > autoWaitForIdle (waits for the awt EventQueue to be empty before
> > adding new events to the queue), and setting autoDelay (pauses for an
> > arbitrary period of time) to some magic number of millis well above
> > zero (I use 100) significantly reduces failures. Would anyone object
> > to configuring the Robot with settings like this by default? If no,
> > should the config mechanism be updated to allow tweaking these
> > settings?
> >
> >
>
> I don't know what the classpath implementation of Robot looks like, but
> I do know what Sun's Linux/Unix implementation looks like (having
> written the original version).
>
> Generally Robot has to request the OS or X11 to synthesize the event.
> On Windows there's a direct API call, while on Unix/Linux there is a
> child process which ends up calling XTEST extension methods.  In both
> cases it means there is a nondeterministic delay due to the current
> process scheduling characteristics of the given system.  In other words
> it depends on an external entity, who Robot cannot coerce into
> performing the request within a bounded set of time.
>
> I think that means depending on Robot doing it's thing within a given
> period of time is an invalid test.
>
> Robot does not add events to EventQueue but it requests the OS to
> synthesize an OS-level event.
>
> - David Herron
>
>


-- 
Steve McKay <smckay@google.com>

  reply	other threads:[~2007-09-24 21:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-09-24 20:31 Steve McKay☄
2007-09-24 20:50 ` David Herron
2007-09-24 21:22   ` Steve McKay☄ [this message]
2007-09-24 21:41     ` David Herron
2007-09-25 18:33       ` Lillian Angel
2007-09-25 19:13         ` Steve McKay☄
2007-09-25 19:27           ` Lillian Angel
2007-09-25 19:37             ` Steve McKay☄
2007-09-25 19:45               ` Lillian Angel
2007-09-25 19:27         ` David Herron
2007-09-25 18:33   ` Thomas Fitzsimmons
2007-09-25 18:57     ` Steve McKay☄
2007-09-25 19:58       ` Thomas Fitzsimmons
2007-09-25 20:28         ` Steve McKay☄
2007-10-04  0:43           ` Steve McKay☄
2007-10-04 13:04             ` Lillian Angel
2007-09-25 19:24     ` David Herron
2007-09-25 18:10 ` Thomas Fitzsimmons
2007-09-25 18:14   ` Steve McKay☄

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