From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 32172 invoked by alias); 16 Feb 2006 17:51:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 32163 invoked by uid 22791); 16 Feb 2006 17:51:47 -0000 X-Spam-Check-By: sourceware.org Received: from xproxy.gmail.com (HELO xproxy.gmail.com) (66.249.82.202) by sourceware.org (qpsmtpd/0.31) with ESMTP; Thu, 16 Feb 2006 17:51:45 +0000 Received: by xproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id t13so121064wxc for ; Thu, 16 Feb 2006 09:51:44 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.70.109.11 with SMTP id h11mr764361wxc; Thu, 16 Feb 2006 09:51:41 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.70.109.9 with HTTP; Thu, 16 Feb 2006 09:51:41 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 17:51:00 -0000 From: Stuart Ballard To: Archie Cobbs Subject: Re: Mauve license Cc: GNU Classpath , mauve-discuss@sourceware.org In-Reply-To: <43F4B90E.9030209@dellroad.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <43F4B2F9.9090801@dellroad.org> <43F4B90E.9030209@dellroad.org> Mailing-List: contact mauve-discuss-help@sourceware.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: mauve-discuss-owner@sourceware.org X-SW-Source: 2006-q1/txt/msg00035.txt.bz2 On 2/16/06, Archie Cobbs wrote: > This can make sense if the Harmony tests are Harmony-specific. Some are, some aren't. They plan to have a separation between the two though. So Classpath will be able to use the non-specific part of Harmony's testsuite. > Otherwise I don't see what the point is. The point is that, for whatever reasons (rational or irrational), some people simply won't contribute to a GPL-licensed project. Some of those people are Harmony contributors. If those people want to contribute to a Java testsuite, which they do, it won't be Mauve as long as Mauve is GPL. > There may be no real reason it should be GPL, but in any case it is... > so.. what's the problem with that? I mean, from a practical standpoint. =46rom a practical standpoint it's deterring a fairly large body of potential contributors... > But you seem also to be asking the religious question "why GPL"? Not at all. I like the GPL. I think the GPL-with-exception license of Classpath is the perfect license for what Classpath does. I use the GPL on almost all my own code (although I prefer the LGPL for things that are designed to be used as libraries). Even RMS points out that using non-copyleft licenses can be beneficial when it's a net gain for Free Software as a whole (eg Ogg). And in this case I think there is such a gain, because the GPL is buying us nothing (since there's no practical reason why anyone would *want* to take Mauve proprietary) but costing us contributors. I seem to be in a minority though, so I'll drop the issue I guess. Stuart. -- http://sab39.dev.netreach.com/