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From: "R. Diez" <rdiezmail-newlib@yahoo.de>
To: Mike Frysinger <vapier@gentoo.org>
Cc: newlib@sourceware.org, Richard Earnshaw <Richard.Earnshaw@foss.arm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] newlib: fix build with <gcc-5 versions
Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2022 10:17:47 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <16551142-64aa-fdda-8f9e-7656c6b9390f@yahoo.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YjGgE0WFwVPT2oh1@vapier>


>> Therefore, compiling your code with GCC < 5 will silently break your application.
>> After all, the only reason to use __builtin_mul_overflow() is
>> that you need to check for overflow, is it?
> 
> practically speaking, i don't think this is a big deal.  newlib gained these
> checks only "recently" (<2 years ago).  newlib has been around for much much
> longer, and the world didn't notice.

Such general justifications wouldn't pass quality assurance (if we had one).


> yes, if an app starts trying to allocate
> huge amounts of memory such that it triggers 32-bit overflows when calculating,
> the new size, it will probably internally allocate fewer bytes than requested,
> and things will get corrupted.  but like, don't do that :p.  such applications
> probably will have other problems already.

You are suggesting that this only affects memory allocation, but the patch is for libc/include/sys/cdefs.h , so those mine traps will be available for everybody.

People will tend to assume that anything in Newlib is correct, and code has a way to get copied around and re-used.

There are many ways to mitigate the risk:

- Require GCC 5.
- Provide a proper implementation of __builtin_mul_overflow().
- Patch all users of __builtin_mul_overflow() within Newlib, so that they do not use it if the compiler does not provide it.
- Issue a compilation warning for GCC < 5 that the "stub" __builtin_mul_overflow() is broken.
   Note that this is not actually a "stub" implementation in the common sense.
- Add an "assert( false ) // fix me" inside the implementation.
- Add a comment stating that the "stub" implementation is not actually correct.

Regards,
   rdiez

  reply	other threads:[~2022-03-16  9:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-03-14  3:25 [PATCH] " Mike Frysinger
2022-03-14  7:36 ` Sebastian Huber
2022-03-14 16:58   ` Mike Frysinger
2022-03-15  3:25 ` [PATCH v2] " Mike Frysinger
2022-03-15 12:41   ` Richard Earnshaw
2022-03-15 23:54     ` Mike Frysinger
2022-03-16  7:12       ` R. Diez
2022-03-16  8:30         ` Mike Frysinger
2022-03-16  9:17           ` R. Diez [this message]
2022-03-17  2:41             ` Mike Frysinger
2022-03-17  9:49               ` Corinna Vinschen
2022-03-17 11:26                 ` Richard Earnshaw
2022-03-18  7:24                   ` Corinna Vinschen
2022-03-18  8:30                     ` R. Diez
2022-03-18  9:26                       ` Corinna Vinschen
2022-03-18  9:45                         ` R. Diez
2022-03-20  1:22                           ` Mike Frysinger
2022-03-20  1:21                 ` Mike Frysinger
2022-03-20 13:57                   ` Jordi Sanfeliu
2022-03-20 12:52       ` Eric Bresie
2022-03-20 14:16         ` Mike Frysinger
2022-03-15 23:53 ` [PATCH v3] " Mike Frysinger
     [not found] <1647792834.2524.0.ref@smtp.mail.att.net>
2022-03-20 16:13 ` [PATCH v2] " Steven J Abner
     [not found] <1647807849.2524.1.ref@smtp.mail.att.net>
2022-03-20 20:24 ` Steven J Abner

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