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From: Thomas Preudhomme <thomas.preudhomme@foss.arm.com>
To: newlib@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH, newlib] Allow locking routine to be retargeted
Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2016 14:38:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7dc33ad1-fecf-a0ec-81b6-2db698c5c57d@foss.arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <707976084.18201.1478865372907.JavaMail.zimbra@embedded-brains.de>

Hi Sebastian,

I was thinking on how to solve this issue and found two possible solutions:

1) select size of lock at configure time

Instead of being an enable/disable option the configure option could take an 
integer value N that determine the size of lock, default being the size of a 
pointer. The lock would then be defined as an array of N integers.

Pro: LOCK_INIT works, simpler & smaller change
Cons: lock needs to be as big as the biggest lock among all the platforms you 
want to target wasting a bit of space.

2) Remove static initialization of locks

Remove all LOCK_INIT and add code as required to call lock_initialize at start 
up time.

Pro: you only pay the size for the lock you need (ie nothing except empty 
functions in the single threaded case)
Cons: much bigger work, start up cannot support multithread


I'm more in favor of 1) because that's good enough for us and the change is 
smaller in scale but I want to make sure that's good for your use case as well.

Best regards,

Thomas

On 11/11/16 11:56, Sebastian Huber wrote:
>
> ----- Thomas Preudhomme <thomas.preudhomme@foss.arm.com> schrieb:
>> On 10/11/16 20:32, Freddie Chopin wrote:
> [...]
>>> This could work, if only malloc() was not protected with the statically
>>> created _LOCK_T lock itself, which would need such initialization
>>> too... I don't see any other way to write such function for an RTOS
>>> which has mutexes with size greater than "uintptr_t" (probably huge
>>> majority). You could do it with a static pool of storage for mutexes,
>>> but then you'd have to know upfront how many you want and your RTOS
>>> would have to allow creation of locks in provided storage (most of them
>>> allow that, but not all). Maybe I just don't see the simplest solution
>>> to this problem?
>>
>> Why do mutex needs to be more than a single integer? How big are mutex in RTOS
>> typically in your experience?
>
> This depends on what features the RTOS wants to support.  For example SMP, locking protocols, blocking on a wait queue, user-provided or external-provided storage, nesting, etc.
>
> For RTEMS a recursive mutex with support for priority inheritance (or OMIP) and SMP (optional) needs 20 bytes on a 32-bit machine for example:
>
> https://sourceware.org/git/gitweb.cgi?p=newlib-cygwin.git;a=blob;f=newlib/libc/sys/rtems/include/sys/lock.h;h=e0d77cb614b348a949e23ca4c543b1ce6a055b6d;hb=HEAD#l55
>
> With an integer only you can implement a futex like on Linux, however, this needs a complex infrastructure in the background and provides only random fairness.
>

  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-11-23 14:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-11-10 14:42 Thomas Preudhomme
2016-11-10 15:34 ` Freddie Chopin
2016-11-10 16:05   ` Thomas Preudhomme
2016-11-10 20:32     ` Freddie Chopin
2016-11-10 20:35       ` Freddie Chopin
2016-11-11  9:38         ` AW: " onkel.jack
2016-11-11 11:01           ` Thomas Preudhomme
2016-11-11 11:20             ` onkel.jack
2016-11-11 12:13               ` Freddie Chopin
2016-11-11 11:09       ` Thomas Preudhomme
2016-11-11 11:54         ` Freddie Chopin
2016-11-11 11:56         ` Sebastian Huber
2016-11-11 13:40           ` Thomas Preudhomme
2016-11-11 14:10             ` Freddie Chopin
2016-11-23 14:38           ` Thomas Preudhomme [this message]
2016-11-23 15:52             ` Freddie Chopin
2016-11-24  7:44             ` Sebastian Huber
2016-11-24  8:29               ` Freddie Chopin
2016-11-25 10:21               ` Thomas Preudhomme
2016-11-25 12:04                 ` Thomas Preudhomme
2016-11-25 12:35                   ` Sebastian Huber
2016-12-13 17:20                     ` Thomas Preudhomme
2016-11-25 14:12                   ` Freddie Chopin
2016-12-13 17:18 Thomas Preudhomme
2016-12-13 20:13 ` Freddie Chopin
2016-12-14 11:54   ` Thomas Preudhomme
2016-12-14 12:39     ` Freddie Chopin
2017-01-11 13:09       ` Thomas Preudhomme
2016-12-13 21:11 ` Freddie Chopin
2016-12-13 21:41 ` Freddie Chopin
2016-12-14 14:22 ` Sebastian Huber
2016-12-14 14:36   ` Thomas Preudhomme
2016-12-14 14:52     ` Thomas Preudhomme
2017-01-09 18:49       ` Freddie Chopin
2017-01-10 16:50         ` Thomas Preudhomme
2017-01-10 17:07           ` Freddie Chopin
2017-01-11 16:09             ` Thomas Preudhomme
2017-01-11 16:46               ` Craig Howland
2017-01-11 17:48                 ` Thomas Preudhomme
2017-01-11 18:08                   ` Craig Howland
2017-01-11 19:14                   ` Freddie Chopin
2017-01-12 10:52                     ` Thomas Preudhomme
2017-01-12 16:20                       ` Freddie Chopin
2017-01-12 16:55                         ` Thomas Preudhomme
2017-01-13 11:25                           ` Thomas Preudhomme
2017-01-13 13:24                             ` Thomas Preudhomme
2017-01-13 18:05                               ` Freddie Chopin
2017-01-13 18:16                                 ` Thomas Preudhomme
2017-01-16 15:59                                   ` Thomas Preudhomme
2017-01-20 13:37                                     ` Thomas Preudhomme
2017-01-20 13:55                                       ` Freddie Chopin
2017-01-24 10:00                                       ` Freddie Chopin
2017-01-25 12:31                                         ` Corinna Vinschen
2017-01-30 10:51                                         ` Thomas Preudhomme
2016-12-14 15:27     ` Freddie Chopin

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