From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from us-smtp-1.mimecast.com (us-smtp-delivery-1.mimecast.com [205.139.110.120]) by sourceware.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3967A386F460 for ; Thu, 7 May 2020 14:19:14 +0000 (GMT) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 sourceware.org 3967A386F460 Received: from mimecast-mx01.redhat.com (mimecast-mx01.redhat.com [209.132.183.4]) (Using TLS) by relay.mimecast.com with ESMTP id us-mta-176-SCc9u5LAMvmgye0R96CphA-1; Thu, 07 May 2020 10:18:54 -0400 X-MC-Unique: SCc9u5LAMvmgye0R96CphA-1 Received: from smtp.corp.redhat.com (int-mx03.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.11.13]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mimecast-mx01.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E7FB6460; Thu, 7 May 2020 14:18:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ovpn-112-53.phx2.redhat.com (ovpn-112-53.phx2.redhat.com [10.3.112.53]) by smtp.corp.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0FF070545; Thu, 7 May 2020 14:18:52 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <0951bbe1cc8d4e790bf668ba1b09dd294c285bcc.camel@redhat.com> Subject: Re: Ancient Archives of ftp.sourceware.org? From: Jeff Law Reply-To: law@redhat.com To: joel@rtems.org Cc: Overseers mailing list Date: Thu, 07 May 2020 08:18:52 -0600 In-Reply-To: References: <58399b8fc5726a977ed2c26a2ff18b84acfccba1.camel@redhat.com> Organization: Red Hat User-Agent: Evolution 3.36.2 (3.36.2-1.fc32) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.79 on 10.5.11.13 X-Mimecast-Spam-Score: 0 X-Mimecast-Originator: redhat.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-9.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH, DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU, DKIM_VALID_EF, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2, SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_PASS, TXREP autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on server2.sourceware.org X-BeenThere: overseers@sourceware.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Overseers mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 May 2020 14:19:15 -0000 On Thu, 2020-05-07 at 09:01 -0500, Joel Sherrill wrote: > > > On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 2:30 PM Jeff Law wrote: > > On Wed, 2020-05-06 at 10:44 -0500, Joel Sherrill via Overseers wrote: > > > Hi > > > > > > May 4th was the 25th birthday of the oldest commit in the RTEMS repository. > > > Before that, there was a private repo for the research project that > > > produced it. We started the public repository from the last snapshot. > > > > > > In those dark years of the early Internet, ftp.sourceware.org? had RTEMS on > > > it. Cygnus even included a version on a floppy they sent out. I scanned the > > > letter, envelope, and put the floppy contents online ( > > > https://ftp.rtems.org/pub/rtems/people/joel/CygnusFloppyAugust1995/). I had > > > to buy a USB floppy drive to read the floppy. Enjoy that flashback. :) > > > > > > As we approach the 30th anniversary of the first public paper on RTEMS, I'd > > > love to find some really old versions. The version on that floppy is the > > > oldest one we have. > > > > > > Is there any chance, there are easily accessible old, old, dusty versions > > > of ftp.sourceware.org? from before 1995? > > I don't think sourceware was born until 1997/1998 ;-) > > > > Over time we've tried to populate it with old releases as they're found. > > Wow! How was newlib distributed back in the dark pre-sourceware age? > I know we used it before 97/98 and got it via ftp. I don't remember. I would expect official releases from the newlib project would have been via ftp *somewhere*, but I don't know where. It was a long time ago. There were certainly also releases to Cygnus customers that would have included newlib. > I went to https://sourceware.org/newlib/ and the link to the ftp site is > broken. I think that should be https://www.sourceware.org/ftp/newlib/ but > the links for all the downloads are ftp also and don't work. Ugh :( > > But it was enough to see that newlib 1.6 is from 1994 which is back > when Rob Savoye maintained it. I kept his business card from back > then because I thought Hacker was a cool job title. :) I believe policy was you can put whatever title you want on your cards. We had some that were, umm, "interesting". jeff