From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from dragaera.releasedominatrix.com (dragaera.releasedominatrix.com [198.0.208.83]) by sourceware.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A5443870854 for ; Thu, 7 May 2020 17:10:40 +0000 (GMT) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 sourceware.org 7A5443870854 Received: from athyra.home (athyra.geoffk.org [198.0.208.82]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by dragaera.releasedominatrix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE86D33D2C2; Thu, 7 May 2020 17:10:38 +0000 (UTC) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.4 \(3445.104.14\)) Subject: Re: Ancient Archives of ftp.sourceware.org? From: Angela Marie Thomas In-Reply-To: <0951bbe1cc8d4e790bf668ba1b09dd294c285bcc.camel@redhat.com> Date: Thu, 7 May 2020 10:10:37 -0700 Cc: joel@rtems.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <173983EA-FD71-40D7-95C5-7FBDC3DFFFE5@releasedominatrix.com> References: <58399b8fc5726a977ed2c26a2ff18b84acfccba1.camel@redhat.com> <0951bbe1cc8d4e790bf668ba1b09dd294c285bcc.camel@redhat.com> To: law@redhat.com, Overseers mailing list X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.104.14) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_20, DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU, DKIM_VALID_EF, SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_PASS autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on server2.sourceware.org X-BeenThere: overseers@sourceware.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Overseers mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 May 2020 17:10:44 -0000 > On May 07, 2020, at 07:18, Jeff Law via Overseers = wrote: >=20 > On Thu, 2020-05-07 at 09:01 -0500, Joel Sherrill wrote: >>=20 >>=20 >> On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 2:30 PM Jeff Law wrote: >>> On Wed, 2020-05-06 at 10:44 -0500, Joel Sherrill via Overseers = wrote: >>>> Hi >>>>=20 >>>> May 4th was the 25th birthday of the oldest commit in the RTEMS = repository. >>>> Before that, there was a private repo for the research project that >>>> produced it. We started the public repository from the last = snapshot. >>>>=20 >>>> In those dark years of the early Internet, ftp.sourceware.org? had = RTEMS on >>>> it. Cygnus even included a version on a floppy they sent out. I = scanned the >>>> letter, envelope, and put the floppy contents online ( >>>> = https://ftp.rtems.org/pub/rtems/people/joel/CygnusFloppyAugust1995/). I = had >>>> to buy a USB floppy drive to read the floppy. Enjoy that = flashback. :) >>>>=20 >>>> As we approach the 30th anniversary of the first public paper on = RTEMS, I'd >>>> love to find some really old versions. The version on that floppy = is the >>>> oldest one we have. >>>>=20 >>>> Is there any chance, there are easily accessible old, old, dusty = versions >>>> of ftp.sourceware.org? from before 1995? >>> I don't think sourceware was born until 1997/1998 ;-) >>>=20 >>> Over time we've tried to populate it with old releases as they're = found. >>=20 >> Wow! How was newlib distributed back in the dark pre-sourceware age? >> I know we used it before 97/98 and got it via ftp.=20 > I don't remember. I would expect official releases from the newlib = project > would have been via ftp *somewhere*, but I don't know where. It was a = long time > ago. Back then newlib was on ftp.cygnus.com. That's also almost certainly = where any older RTEMS releases would have been if we had any. I looked and I don't have = a copy of ftp.cygnus.com anywhere. >>=20 >> But it was enough to see that newlib 1.6 is from 1994 which is back >> when Rob Savoye maintained it. I kept his business card from back=20 >> then because I thought Hacker was a cool job title. :) > I believe policy was you can put whatever title you want on your = cards. We had > some that were, umm, "interesting". Mark Eichin had the best title, "International Arms Dealer". Even though Julie said I had to destroy all of mine, I still have a box = of "Release Dominatrix" ones somewhere. --Angela=