From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Jim Kingdon To: rosalia@lanl.gov Cc: overseers@sourceware.cygnus.com Subject: Re: important people (!) unable to use sourceware Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2000 16:13:00 -0000 Message-ID: <200003100013.TAA04899@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <87vh2vafvt.fsf@portacipria.lanl.gov> X-SW-Source: 2000-q1/msg00002.html Message-ID: <20000309161300.VO2iyBWLfiXxKOCGJJXvqK7AxO8tHkdlwoDcgBR5Evs@z> It sounds like you are mostly talking about the DUL ( http://mail-abuse.org/dul/ ) which basically says "we don't accept mail directly from a dial-up". This is a separate issue (in terms of what it lists) from the other blocking lists (RBL, ORBS, or RSS). Last I looked the DUL blocks a *lot* of spam so I'm sure that if we turned it off we'd get lots of complaints from the spammed ones. It isn't like ORBS where we could probably do without it and not miss it much. > I would propose that a "requirement" on the system be that people be > able to travel and hook up their laptops to major ISPs and still use > our system. You just need some mail server which you can authenticate yourself to (or which otherwise will accept mail from you). Sometimes this will be the "major ISP" that you dial into, sometimes it will be your home ISP/company (using POP-before-SMTP usually, although it could be something more exotic like smtpauth). Or, as has been suggested, use an SSH tunnel to a machine where you can send the mail. No one has a really nice solution to the problem of sending email while on the road. But just counting on being able to send from your laptop to the destination mail server is becoming less possible (for example, more and more dialup ISPs are blocking port 25 outbound, which would foil this kind of usage quite aside from anything which sourceware is doing).