* Renaming sourceware @ 2000-12-30 6:08 Jim Kingdon 2000-04-04 7:28 ` Jim Kingdon 2000-12-30 6:08 ` Chris Faylor 0 siblings, 2 replies; 18+ messages in thread From: Jim Kingdon @ 2000-12-30 6:08 UTC (permalink / raw) To: overseers Your input is solicited on the following page at http://sourceware.cygnus.com/sourceware/rename.html - respond as described or to this list, as appropriate: Renaming Sourceware Background: sourceware needs a new name - here are some criteria: * does not infringe on anyone's trademark (like sourceware does) * easy to remember * easy to pronounce * reflect Red Hat's involvement/support * any other suggested criteria? The process as it is currently planned is: 1. Don't combine the rename with other activities such as hardware or software upgrades. Let's bite off something we can chew, get it done, then look at whatever else we need to address. 2. Make a list of suggested names (the list so far is below, send your submissions to sourcemaster@cygnus.com or just check them in if you have access). 3. Try to reach a decision. The Powers That Be are thinking of just conducting a vote (on the theory that it is largely a question of preference), although we haven't decided for sure whether we plan a more deliberate/structured thing. 4. Implement the rename. This is a lot of work, in that the name appears many places, but it is straightforward. Plan is to do it the same way as egcs.cygnus.com -> gcc.gnu.org, with the old name working for an extended period of time. Suggested names * Sources.redhat.com (can be pronounced "sources.redhat"). ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Renaming sourceware 2000-12-30 6:08 Renaming sourceware Jim Kingdon @ 2000-04-04 7:28 ` Jim Kingdon 2000-12-30 6:08 ` Chris Faylor 1 sibling, 0 replies; 18+ messages in thread From: Jim Kingdon @ 2000-04-04 7:28 UTC (permalink / raw) To: overseers Your input is solicited on the following page at http://sourceware.cygnus.com/sourceware/rename.html - respond as described or to this list, as appropriate: Renaming Sourceware Background: sourceware needs a new name - here are some criteria: * does not infringe on anyone's trademark (like sourceware does) * easy to remember * easy to pronounce * reflect Red Hat's involvement/support * any other suggested criteria? The process as it is currently planned is: 1. Don't combine the rename with other activities such as hardware or software upgrades. Let's bite off something we can chew, get it done, then look at whatever else we need to address. 2. Make a list of suggested names (the list so far is below, send your submissions to sourcemaster@cygnus.com or just check them in if you have access). 3. Try to reach a decision. The Powers That Be are thinking of just conducting a vote (on the theory that it is largely a question of preference), although we haven't decided for sure whether we plan a more deliberate/structured thing. 4. Implement the rename. This is a lot of work, in that the name appears many places, but it is straightforward. Plan is to do it the same way as egcs.cygnus.com -> gcc.gnu.org, with the old name working for an extended period of time. Suggested names * Sources.redhat.com (can be pronounced "sources.redhat"). ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: Renaming sourceware 2000-12-30 6:08 Renaming sourceware Jim Kingdon 2000-04-04 7:28 ` Jim Kingdon @ 2000-12-30 6:08 ` Chris Faylor 2000-04-04 10:49 ` Chris Faylor 2000-12-30 6:08 ` Jim Kingdon 1 sibling, 2 replies; 18+ messages in thread From: Chris Faylor @ 2000-12-30 6:08 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Jim Kingdon; +Cc: overseers On Tue, Apr 04, 2000 at 10:28:17AM -0400, Jim Kingdon wrote: >Suggested names > > * Sources.redhat.com (can be pronounced "sources.redhat"). Could we somehow fit the feeling that these are actively developed projects into the name? source-projects.redhat.com (probably too long) source-forum.redhat.com source-home.redhat.com (or without the dashes) cgf ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: Renaming sourceware 2000-12-30 6:08 ` Chris Faylor @ 2000-04-04 10:49 ` Chris Faylor 2000-12-30 6:08 ` Jim Kingdon 1 sibling, 0 replies; 18+ messages in thread From: Chris Faylor @ 2000-04-04 10:49 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Jim Kingdon; +Cc: overseers On Tue, Apr 04, 2000 at 10:28:17AM -0400, Jim Kingdon wrote: >Suggested names > > * Sources.redhat.com (can be pronounced "sources.redhat"). Could we somehow fit the feeling that these are actively developed projects into the name? source-projects.redhat.com (probably too long) source-forum.redhat.com source-home.redhat.com (or without the dashes) cgf ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: Renaming sourceware 2000-12-30 6:08 ` Chris Faylor 2000-04-04 10:49 ` Chris Faylor @ 2000-12-30 6:08 ` Jim Kingdon 2000-04-04 14:52 ` Jim Kingdon 2000-12-30 6:08 ` Stan Shebs 1 sibling, 2 replies; 18+ messages in thread From: Jim Kingdon @ 2000-12-30 6:08 UTC (permalink / raw) To: cgf; +Cc: overseers > Could we somehow fit . . . Thanks for the suggestions; I've added them to http://sourceware.cygnus.com/sourceware/rename.html (and enclosed the current list at the end of this message) Please keep those cards and letters coming. I'm looking for (a) more suggested names, and (b) suggestions about process/criteria/&c (I'd like to collect a bunch of suggested names before we start arguing too hard about which ones are good. But I do want to know whether I've missed any steps in terms of what needs to happen or factors we need to consider). Sources.redhat.com (can be pronounced "sources.redhat"). source-projects.redhat.com (probably too long) source-forum.redhat.com source-home.redhat.com Any of the above without the dashes "Red Hat Workshop" (workshop.redhat.com) "The Open Source Garage" (garage.redhat.com) "Red Hut" (hut.redhat.com) "Red Shed" (shed.redhat.com) ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: Renaming sourceware 2000-12-30 6:08 ` Jim Kingdon @ 2000-04-04 14:52 ` Jim Kingdon 2000-12-30 6:08 ` Stan Shebs 1 sibling, 0 replies; 18+ messages in thread From: Jim Kingdon @ 2000-04-04 14:52 UTC (permalink / raw) To: cgf; +Cc: overseers > Could we somehow fit . . . Thanks for the suggestions; I've added them to http://sourceware.cygnus.com/sourceware/rename.html (and enclosed the current list at the end of this message) Please keep those cards and letters coming. I'm looking for (a) more suggested names, and (b) suggestions about process/criteria/&c (I'd like to collect a bunch of suggested names before we start arguing too hard about which ones are good. But I do want to know whether I've missed any steps in terms of what needs to happen or factors we need to consider). Sources.redhat.com (can be pronounced "sources.redhat"). source-projects.redhat.com (probably too long) source-forum.redhat.com source-home.redhat.com Any of the above without the dashes "Red Hat Workshop" (workshop.redhat.com) "The Open Source Garage" (garage.redhat.com) "Red Hut" (hut.redhat.com) "Red Shed" (shed.redhat.com) ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: Renaming sourceware 2000-12-30 6:08 ` Jim Kingdon 2000-04-04 14:52 ` Jim Kingdon @ 2000-12-30 6:08 ` Stan Shebs 2000-04-04 20:27 ` Stan Shebs ` (3 more replies) 1 sibling, 4 replies; 18+ messages in thread From: Stan Shebs @ 2000-12-30 6:08 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Jim Kingdon; +Cc: cgf, overseers Jim Kingdon wrote: > "Red Shed" (shed.redhat.com) Or "woodshed", as in "I have to take that patch out to the woodshed". :-) There's also "barn", or "sourcebarn" (your one-stop download center!), or "sourcesilo", with double-entrendre possibilities. "sourceholm"? Or recycle "well", as a nod to the old online site, or perhaps "Well of Sources", or "sink", or "cesspool". Stan ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: Renaming sourceware 2000-12-30 6:08 ` Stan Shebs @ 2000-04-04 20:27 ` Stan Shebs 2000-12-30 6:08 ` Chris Faylor ` (2 subsequent siblings) 3 siblings, 0 replies; 18+ messages in thread From: Stan Shebs @ 2000-04-04 20:27 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Jim Kingdon; +Cc: cgf, overseers Jim Kingdon wrote: > "Red Shed" (shed.redhat.com) Or "woodshed", as in "I have to take that patch out to the woodshed". :-) There's also "barn", or "sourcebarn" (your one-stop download center!), or "sourcesilo", with double-entrendre possibilities. "sourceholm"? Or recycle "well", as a nod to the old online site, or perhaps "Well of Sources", or "sink", or "cesspool". Stan ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: Renaming sourceware 2000-12-30 6:08 ` Stan Shebs 2000-04-04 20:27 ` Stan Shebs @ 2000-12-30 6:08 ` Chris Faylor 2000-04-04 20:29 ` Chris Faylor 2000-12-30 6:08 ` Frank Ch. Eigler 2000-12-30 6:08 ` Jim Kingdon 3 siblings, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread From: Chris Faylor @ 2000-12-30 6:08 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Stan Shebs; +Cc: Jim Kingdon, overseers On Tue, Apr 04, 2000 at 08:34:00PM -0700, Stan Shebs wrote: >Jim Kingdon wrote: > >> "Red Shed" (shed.redhat.com) > >Or "woodshed", as in "I have to take that patch out to the woodshed". > >:-) > >There's also "barn", or "sourcebarn" (your one-stop download center!), >or "sourcesilo", with double-entrendre possibilities. "sourceholm"? > >Or recycle "well", as a nod to the old online site, or perhaps >"Well of Sources", or "sink", or "cesspool". I also mentioned "rhats.redhat.com", in semi-private email to Jim, for "Red Hat Sources". cgf ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: Renaming sourceware 2000-12-30 6:08 ` Chris Faylor @ 2000-04-04 20:29 ` Chris Faylor 0 siblings, 0 replies; 18+ messages in thread From: Chris Faylor @ 2000-04-04 20:29 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Stan Shebs; +Cc: Jim Kingdon, overseers On Tue, Apr 04, 2000 at 08:34:00PM -0700, Stan Shebs wrote: >Jim Kingdon wrote: > >> "Red Shed" (shed.redhat.com) > >Or "woodshed", as in "I have to take that patch out to the woodshed". > >:-) > >There's also "barn", or "sourcebarn" (your one-stop download center!), >or "sourcesilo", with double-entrendre possibilities. "sourceholm"? > >Or recycle "well", as a nod to the old online site, or perhaps >"Well of Sources", or "sink", or "cesspool". I also mentioned "rhats.redhat.com", in semi-private email to Jim, for "Red Hat Sources". cgf ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: Renaming sourceware 2000-12-30 6:08 ` Stan Shebs 2000-04-04 20:27 ` Stan Shebs 2000-12-30 6:08 ` Chris Faylor @ 2000-12-30 6:08 ` Frank Ch. Eigler 2000-04-05 5:21 ` Frank Ch. Eigler 2000-12-30 6:08 ` Stan Shebs 2000-12-30 6:08 ` Jim Kingdon 3 siblings, 2 replies; 18+ messages in thread From: Frank Ch. Eigler @ 2000-12-30 6:08 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Stan Shebs; +Cc: Jim Kingdon, cgf, overseers Hi - shebs wrote: > [...] > Or recycle "well", as a nod to the old online site, or perhaps > "Well of Sources", or "sink", or "cesspool". Hm, "sourcepool" is pretty good, and can be mispronounced as "cesspool" in occasional frustration. - FChE -- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.0 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE46y+yVZbdDOm/ZT0RATvqAJ9C/p+CVFAIZJw8+CNpBSVAA6JciQCfQich oDSgUkM+aRUMZCu6Jr02vpc= =oewk -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: Renaming sourceware 2000-12-30 6:08 ` Frank Ch. Eigler @ 2000-04-05 5:21 ` Frank Ch. Eigler 2000-12-30 6:08 ` Stan Shebs 1 sibling, 0 replies; 18+ messages in thread From: Frank Ch. Eigler @ 2000-04-05 5:21 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Stan Shebs; +Cc: Jim Kingdon, cgf, overseers Hi - shebs wrote: > [...] > Or recycle "well", as a nod to the old online site, or perhaps > "Well of Sources", or "sink", or "cesspool". Hm, "sourcepool" is pretty good, and can be mispronounced as "cesspool" in occasional frustration. - FChE -- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.0 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE46y+yVZbdDOm/ZT0RATvqAJ9C/p+CVFAIZJw8+CNpBSVAA6JciQCfQich oDSgUkM+aRUMZCu6Jr02vpc= =oewk -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: Renaming sourceware 2000-12-30 6:08 ` Frank Ch. Eigler 2000-04-05 5:21 ` Frank Ch. Eigler @ 2000-12-30 6:08 ` Stan Shebs 2000-04-05 7:52 ` Stan Shebs 2000-12-30 6:08 ` Bob Manson 1 sibling, 2 replies; 18+ messages in thread From: Stan Shebs @ 2000-12-30 6:08 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Frank Ch. Eigler; +Cc: Jim Kingdon, cgf, overseers "Frank Ch. Eigler" wrote: > > Hi - > > shebs wrote: > > > [...] > > Or recycle "well", as a nod to the old online site, or perhaps > > "Well of Sources", or "sink", or "cesspool". > > Hm, "sourcepool" is pretty good, and can be mispronounced as "cesspool" > in occasional frustration. That's good, I like "sourcepool". -s ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: Renaming sourceware 2000-12-30 6:08 ` Stan Shebs @ 2000-04-05 7:52 ` Stan Shebs 2000-12-30 6:08 ` Bob Manson 1 sibling, 0 replies; 18+ messages in thread From: Stan Shebs @ 2000-04-05 7:52 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Frank Ch. Eigler; +Cc: Jim Kingdon, cgf, overseers "Frank Ch. Eigler" wrote: > > Hi - > > shebs wrote: > > > [...] > > Or recycle "well", as a nod to the old online site, or perhaps > > "Well of Sources", or "sink", or "cesspool". > > Hm, "sourcepool" is pretty good, and can be mispronounced as "cesspool" > in occasional frustration. That's good, I like "sourcepool". -s ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: Renaming sourceware 2000-12-30 6:08 ` Stan Shebs 2000-04-05 7:52 ` Stan Shebs @ 2000-12-30 6:08 ` Bob Manson 2000-04-05 13:08 ` Bob Manson 1 sibling, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread From: Bob Manson @ 2000-12-30 6:08 UTC (permalink / raw) To: overseers My vote would go for sourcepool (actually I like the idea of just calling it cesspool and getting it over with, but I'm *quite* sure that's just me). Bob ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: Renaming sourceware 2000-12-30 6:08 ` Bob Manson @ 2000-04-05 13:08 ` Bob Manson 0 siblings, 0 replies; 18+ messages in thread From: Bob Manson @ 2000-04-05 13:08 UTC (permalink / raw) To: overseers My vote would go for sourcepool (actually I like the idea of just calling it cesspool and getting it over with, but I'm *quite* sure that's just me). Bob ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: Renaming sourceware 2000-12-30 6:08 ` Stan Shebs ` (2 preceding siblings ...) 2000-12-30 6:08 ` Frank Ch. Eigler @ 2000-12-30 6:08 ` Jim Kingdon 2000-04-05 6:43 ` Jim Kingdon 3 siblings, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread From: Jim Kingdon @ 2000-12-30 6:08 UTC (permalink / raw) To: shebs; +Cc: cgf, overseers OK, I've updated http://sourceware.cygnus.com/sourceware/rename.html . If your favorite name isn't there, I probably didn't interpret you as being serious. Don't read too much into the "reflect Red Hat's involvement" thing - this isn't something that RHAT is imposing on us (as a company, RHAT doesn't pay the site that much attention :-)), it is our own devious plan (same as the way that sourceware.cygnus.com is in cygnus.com not sourceware.com, nothing more, nothing less). ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: Renaming sourceware 2000-12-30 6:08 ` Jim Kingdon @ 2000-04-05 6:43 ` Jim Kingdon 0 siblings, 0 replies; 18+ messages in thread From: Jim Kingdon @ 2000-04-05 6:43 UTC (permalink / raw) To: shebs; +Cc: cgf, overseers OK, I've updated http://sourceware.cygnus.com/sourceware/rename.html . If your favorite name isn't there, I probably didn't interpret you as being serious. Don't read too much into the "reflect Red Hat's involvement" thing - this isn't something that RHAT is imposing on us (as a company, RHAT doesn't pay the site that much attention :-)), it is our own devious plan (same as the way that sourceware.cygnus.com is in cygnus.com not sourceware.com, nothing more, nothing less). ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
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