Renaming sourceware

Renaming sourceware

[Jim Kingdon]

Your input is solicited on the following
page at http://sourceware.cygnus.com/sourceware/rename.html - respond
as described or to this list, as appropriate:

                              Renaming Sourceware
                                       
   Background: sourceware needs a new name - here are some criteria:
     * does not infringe on anyone's trademark (like sourceware does)
     * easy to remember
     * easy to pronounce
     * reflect Red Hat's involvement/support
     * any other suggested criteria?
       
   The process as it is currently planned is:
    1. Don't combine the rename with other activities such as hardware or
       software upgrades. Let's bite off something we can chew, get it
       done, then look at whatever else we need to address.
    2. Make a list of suggested names (the list so far is below, send
       your submissions to sourcemaster@cygnus.com or just check them in
       if you have access).
    3. Try to reach a decision. The Powers That Be are thinking of just
       conducting a vote (on the theory that it is largely a question of
       preference), although we haven't decided for sure whether we plan
       a more deliberate/structured thing.
    4. Implement the rename. This is a lot of work, in that the name
       appears many places, but it is straightforward. Plan is to do it
       the same way as egcs.cygnus.com -> gcc.gnu.org, with the old name
       working for an extended period of time.
       
Suggested names

     * Sources.redhat.com (can be pronounced "sources.redhat").

Re: Renaming sourceware

[Chris Faylor]

On Tue, Apr 04, 2000 at 10:28:17AM -0400, Jim Kingdon wrote:
>Suggested names
>
>     * Sources.redhat.com (can be pronounced "sources.redhat").

Could we somehow fit the feeling that these are actively developed projects
into the name?

	source-projects.redhat.com (probably too long)
	source-forum.redhat.com
	source-home.redhat.com

(or without the dashes)

cgf

Re: Renaming sourceware

[Jim Kingdon]

> Could we somehow fit . . .

Thanks for the suggestions; I've added them to
http://sourceware.cygnus.com/sourceware/rename.html
(and enclosed the current list at the end of this message)

Please keep those cards and letters coming.  I'm looking for (a) more
suggested names, and (b) suggestions about process/criteria/&c (I'd
like to collect a bunch of suggested names before we start arguing too
hard about which ones are good.  But I do want to know whether I've
missed any steps in terms of what needs to happen or factors we need
to consider).

   Sources.redhat.com (can be pronounced "sources.redhat"). 
   source-projects.redhat.com (probably too long) 
   source-forum.redhat.com 
   source-home.redhat.com 
   Any of the above without the dashes 
   "Red Hat Workshop" (workshop.redhat.com)
   "The Open Source Garage" (garage.redhat.com) 
   "Red Hut" (hut.redhat.com) 
   "Red Shed" (shed.redhat.com) 

Re: Renaming sourceware

[Stan Shebs]

Jim Kingdon wrote:

>    "Red Shed" (shed.redhat.com)

Or "woodshed", as in "I have to take that patch out to the woodshed".

:-)

There's also "barn", or "sourcebarn" (your one-stop download center!),
or "sourcesilo", with double-entrendre possibilities.  "sourceholm"?

Or recycle "well", as a nod to the old online site, or perhaps
"Well of Sources", or "sink", or "cesspool".

Stan

Re: Renaming sourceware

[Chris Faylor]

On Tue, Apr 04, 2000 at 08:34:00PM -0700, Stan Shebs wrote:
>Jim Kingdon wrote:
>
>>    "Red Shed" (shed.redhat.com)
>
>Or "woodshed", as in "I have to take that patch out to the woodshed".
>
>:-)
>
>There's also "barn", or "sourcebarn" (your one-stop download center!),
>or "sourcesilo", with double-entrendre possibilities.  "sourceholm"?
>
>Or recycle "well", as a nod to the old online site, or perhaps
>"Well of Sources", or "sink", or "cesspool".

I also mentioned "rhats.redhat.com", in semi-private email to Jim,
for "Red Hat Sources".

cgf

Re: Renaming sourceware

[Frank Ch. Eigler]

Hi -

shebs wrote:

> [...]
> Or recycle "well", as a nod to the old online site, or perhaps
> "Well of Sources", or "sink", or "cesspool".

Hm, "sourcepool" is pretty good, and can be mispronounced as "cesspool"
in occasional frustration.

- FChE
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Re: Renaming sourceware

[Jim Kingdon]

OK, I've updated http://sourceware.cygnus.com/sourceware/rename.html .
If your favorite name isn't there, I probably didn't interpret you as
being serious.

Don't read too much into the "reflect Red Hat's involvement" thing -
this isn't something that RHAT is imposing on us (as a company, RHAT
doesn't pay the site that much attention :-)), it is our own devious
plan (same as the way that sourceware.cygnus.com is in cygnus.com not
sourceware.com, nothing more, nothing less).

Re: Renaming sourceware

[Stan Shebs]

"Frank Ch. Eigler" wrote:
> 
> Hi -
> 
> shebs wrote:
> 
> > [...]
> > Or recycle "well", as a nod to the old online site, or perhaps
> > "Well of Sources", or "sink", or "cesspool".
> 
> Hm, "sourcepool" is pretty good, and can be mispronounced as "cesspool"
> in occasional frustration.

That's good, I like "sourcepool". -s

Re: Renaming sourceware

[Bob Manson]

My vote would go for sourcepool (actually I like the idea of just
calling it cesspool and getting it over with, but I'm *quite* sure
that's just me).
						Bob

Re: Renaming sourceware

[Stan Shebs]

Jim Kingdon wrote:

>    "Red Shed" (shed.redhat.com)

Or "woodshed", as in "I have to take that patch out to the woodshed".

:-)

There's also "barn", or "sourcebarn" (your one-stop download center!),
or "sourcesilo", with double-entrendre possibilities.  "sourceholm"?

Or recycle "well", as a nod to the old online site, or perhaps
"Well of Sources", or "sink", or "cesspool".

Stan

Re: Renaming sourceware

[Frank Ch. Eigler]

Hi -

shebs wrote:

> [...]
> Or recycle "well", as a nod to the old online site, or perhaps
> "Well of Sources", or "sink", or "cesspool".

Hm, "sourcepool" is pretty good, and can be mispronounced as "cesspool"
in occasional frustration.

- FChE
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Re: Renaming sourceware

[Jim Kingdon]

> Could we somehow fit . . .

Thanks for the suggestions; I've added them to
http://sourceware.cygnus.com/sourceware/rename.html
(and enclosed the current list at the end of this message)

Please keep those cards and letters coming.  I'm looking for (a) more
suggested names, and (b) suggestions about process/criteria/&c (I'd
like to collect a bunch of suggested names before we start arguing too
hard about which ones are good.  But I do want to know whether I've
missed any steps in terms of what needs to happen or factors we need
to consider).

   Sources.redhat.com (can be pronounced "sources.redhat"). 
   source-projects.redhat.com (probably too long) 
   source-forum.redhat.com 
   source-home.redhat.com 
   Any of the above without the dashes 
   "Red Hat Workshop" (workshop.redhat.com)
   "The Open Source Garage" (garage.redhat.com) 
   "Red Hut" (hut.redhat.com) 
   "Red Shed" (shed.redhat.com) 

Renaming sourceware

[Jim Kingdon]

Your input is solicited on the following
page at http://sourceware.cygnus.com/sourceware/rename.html - respond
as described or to this list, as appropriate:

                              Renaming Sourceware
                                       
   Background: sourceware needs a new name - here are some criteria:
     * does not infringe on anyone's trademark (like sourceware does)
     * easy to remember
     * easy to pronounce
     * reflect Red Hat's involvement/support
     * any other suggested criteria?
       
   The process as it is currently planned is:
    1. Don't combine the rename with other activities such as hardware or
       software upgrades. Let's bite off something we can chew, get it
       done, then look at whatever else we need to address.
    2. Make a list of suggested names (the list so far is below, send
       your submissions to sourcemaster@cygnus.com or just check them in
       if you have access).
    3. Try to reach a decision. The Powers That Be are thinking of just
       conducting a vote (on the theory that it is largely a question of
       preference), although we haven't decided for sure whether we plan
       a more deliberate/structured thing.
    4. Implement the rename. This is a lot of work, in that the name
       appears many places, but it is straightforward. Plan is to do it
       the same way as egcs.cygnus.com -> gcc.gnu.org, with the old name
       working for an extended period of time.
       
Suggested names

     * Sources.redhat.com (can be pronounced "sources.redhat").

Re: Renaming sourceware

[Chris Faylor]

On Tue, Apr 04, 2000 at 10:28:17AM -0400, Jim Kingdon wrote:
>Suggested names
>
>     * Sources.redhat.com (can be pronounced "sources.redhat").

Could we somehow fit the feeling that these are actively developed projects
into the name?

	source-projects.redhat.com (probably too long)
	source-forum.redhat.com
	source-home.redhat.com

(or without the dashes)

cgf

Re: Renaming sourceware

[Stan Shebs]

"Frank Ch. Eigler" wrote:
> 
> Hi -
> 
> shebs wrote:
> 
> > [...]
> > Or recycle "well", as a nod to the old online site, or perhaps
> > "Well of Sources", or "sink", or "cesspool".
> 
> Hm, "sourcepool" is pretty good, and can be mispronounced as "cesspool"
> in occasional frustration.

That's good, I like "sourcepool". -s

Re: Renaming sourceware

[Chris Faylor]

On Tue, Apr 04, 2000 at 08:34:00PM -0700, Stan Shebs wrote:
>Jim Kingdon wrote:
>
>>    "Red Shed" (shed.redhat.com)
>
>Or "woodshed", as in "I have to take that patch out to the woodshed".
>
>:-)
>
>There's also "barn", or "sourcebarn" (your one-stop download center!),
>or "sourcesilo", with double-entrendre possibilities.  "sourceholm"?
>
>Or recycle "well", as a nod to the old online site, or perhaps
>"Well of Sources", or "sink", or "cesspool".

I also mentioned "rhats.redhat.com", in semi-private email to Jim,
for "Red Hat Sources".

cgf

Re: Renaming sourceware

[Bob Manson]

My vote would go for sourcepool (actually I like the idea of just
calling it cesspool and getting it over with, but I'm *quite* sure
that's just me).
						Bob

Re: Renaming sourceware

[Jim Kingdon]

OK, I've updated http://sourceware.cygnus.com/sourceware/rename.html .
If your favorite name isn't there, I probably didn't interpret you as
being serious.

Don't read too much into the "reflect Red Hat's involvement" thing -
this isn't something that RHAT is imposing on us (as a company, RHAT
doesn't pay the site that much attention :-)), it is our own devious
plan (same as the way that sourceware.cygnus.com is in cygnus.com not
sourceware.com, nothing more, nothing less).