* Renaming sourceware
2000-12-30 6:08 Renaming sourceware Jim Kingdon
@ 2000-04-04 7:28 ` Jim Kingdon
2000-12-30 6:08 ` Chris Faylor
1 sibling, 0 replies; 18+ messages in thread
From: Jim Kingdon @ 2000-04-04 7:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: overseers
Your input is solicited on the following
page at http://sourceware.cygnus.com/sourceware/rename.html - respond
as described or to this list, as appropriate:
Renaming Sourceware
Background: sourceware needs a new name - here are some criteria:
* does not infringe on anyone's trademark (like sourceware does)
* easy to remember
* easy to pronounce
* reflect Red Hat's involvement/support
* any other suggested criteria?
The process as it is currently planned is:
1. Don't combine the rename with other activities such as hardware or
software upgrades. Let's bite off something we can chew, get it
done, then look at whatever else we need to address.
2. Make a list of suggested names (the list so far is below, send
your submissions to sourcemaster@cygnus.com or just check them in
if you have access).
3. Try to reach a decision. The Powers That Be are thinking of just
conducting a vote (on the theory that it is largely a question of
preference), although we haven't decided for sure whether we plan
a more deliberate/structured thing.
4. Implement the rename. This is a lot of work, in that the name
appears many places, but it is straightforward. Plan is to do it
the same way as egcs.cygnus.com -> gcc.gnu.org, with the old name
working for an extended period of time.
Suggested names
* Sources.redhat.com (can be pronounced "sources.redhat").
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* Re: Renaming sourceware
2000-12-30 6:08 ` Chris Faylor
@ 2000-04-04 10:49 ` Chris Faylor
2000-12-30 6:08 ` Jim Kingdon
1 sibling, 0 replies; 18+ messages in thread
From: Chris Faylor @ 2000-04-04 10:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Jim Kingdon; +Cc: overseers
On Tue, Apr 04, 2000 at 10:28:17AM -0400, Jim Kingdon wrote:
>Suggested names
>
> * Sources.redhat.com (can be pronounced "sources.redhat").
Could we somehow fit the feeling that these are actively developed projects
into the name?
source-projects.redhat.com (probably too long)
source-forum.redhat.com
source-home.redhat.com
(or without the dashes)
cgf
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* Re: Renaming sourceware
2000-12-30 6:08 ` Jim Kingdon
@ 2000-04-04 14:52 ` Jim Kingdon
2000-12-30 6:08 ` Stan Shebs
1 sibling, 0 replies; 18+ messages in thread
From: Jim Kingdon @ 2000-04-04 14:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: cgf; +Cc: overseers
> Could we somehow fit . . .
Thanks for the suggestions; I've added them to
http://sourceware.cygnus.com/sourceware/rename.html
(and enclosed the current list at the end of this message)
Please keep those cards and letters coming. I'm looking for (a) more
suggested names, and (b) suggestions about process/criteria/&c (I'd
like to collect a bunch of suggested names before we start arguing too
hard about which ones are good. But I do want to know whether I've
missed any steps in terms of what needs to happen or factors we need
to consider).
Sources.redhat.com (can be pronounced "sources.redhat").
source-projects.redhat.com (probably too long)
source-forum.redhat.com
source-home.redhat.com
Any of the above without the dashes
"Red Hat Workshop" (workshop.redhat.com)
"The Open Source Garage" (garage.redhat.com)
"Red Hut" (hut.redhat.com)
"Red Shed" (shed.redhat.com)
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* Re: Renaming sourceware
2000-12-30 6:08 ` Stan Shebs
@ 2000-04-04 20:27 ` Stan Shebs
2000-12-30 6:08 ` Jim Kingdon
` (2 subsequent siblings)
3 siblings, 0 replies; 18+ messages in thread
From: Stan Shebs @ 2000-04-04 20:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Jim Kingdon; +Cc: cgf, overseers
Jim Kingdon wrote:
> "Red Shed" (shed.redhat.com)
Or "woodshed", as in "I have to take that patch out to the woodshed".
:-)
There's also "barn", or "sourcebarn" (your one-stop download center!),
or "sourcesilo", with double-entrendre possibilities. "sourceholm"?
Or recycle "well", as a nod to the old online site, or perhaps
"Well of Sources", or "sink", or "cesspool".
Stan
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* Re: Renaming sourceware
2000-12-30 6:08 ` Chris Faylor
@ 2000-04-04 20:29 ` Chris Faylor
0 siblings, 0 replies; 18+ messages in thread
From: Chris Faylor @ 2000-04-04 20:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Stan Shebs; +Cc: Jim Kingdon, overseers
On Tue, Apr 04, 2000 at 08:34:00PM -0700, Stan Shebs wrote:
>Jim Kingdon wrote:
>
>> "Red Shed" (shed.redhat.com)
>
>Or "woodshed", as in "I have to take that patch out to the woodshed".
>
>:-)
>
>There's also "barn", or "sourcebarn" (your one-stop download center!),
>or "sourcesilo", with double-entrendre possibilities. "sourceholm"?
>
>Or recycle "well", as a nod to the old online site, or perhaps
>"Well of Sources", or "sink", or "cesspool".
I also mentioned "rhats.redhat.com", in semi-private email to Jim,
for "Red Hat Sources".
cgf
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* Re: Renaming sourceware
2000-12-30 6:08 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
@ 2000-04-05 5:21 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2000-12-30 6:08 ` Stan Shebs
1 sibling, 0 replies; 18+ messages in thread
From: Frank Ch. Eigler @ 2000-04-05 5:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Stan Shebs; +Cc: Jim Kingdon, cgf, overseers
Hi -
shebs wrote:
> [...]
> Or recycle "well", as a nod to the old online site, or perhaps
> "Well of Sources", or "sink", or "cesspool".
Hm, "sourcepool" is pretty good, and can be mispronounced as "cesspool"
in occasional frustration.
- FChE
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* Re: Renaming sourceware
2000-12-30 6:08 ` Jim Kingdon
@ 2000-04-05 6:43 ` Jim Kingdon
0 siblings, 0 replies; 18+ messages in thread
From: Jim Kingdon @ 2000-04-05 6:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: shebs; +Cc: cgf, overseers
OK, I've updated http://sourceware.cygnus.com/sourceware/rename.html .
If your favorite name isn't there, I probably didn't interpret you as
being serious.
Don't read too much into the "reflect Red Hat's involvement" thing -
this isn't something that RHAT is imposing on us (as a company, RHAT
doesn't pay the site that much attention :-)), it is our own devious
plan (same as the way that sourceware.cygnus.com is in cygnus.com not
sourceware.com, nothing more, nothing less).
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: Renaming sourceware
2000-12-30 6:08 ` Stan Shebs
@ 2000-04-05 7:52 ` Stan Shebs
2000-12-30 6:08 ` Bob Manson
1 sibling, 0 replies; 18+ messages in thread
From: Stan Shebs @ 2000-04-05 7:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Frank Ch. Eigler; +Cc: Jim Kingdon, cgf, overseers
"Frank Ch. Eigler" wrote:
>
> Hi -
>
> shebs wrote:
>
> > [...]
> > Or recycle "well", as a nod to the old online site, or perhaps
> > "Well of Sources", or "sink", or "cesspool".
>
> Hm, "sourcepool" is pretty good, and can be mispronounced as "cesspool"
> in occasional frustration.
That's good, I like "sourcepool". -s
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: Renaming sourceware
2000-12-30 6:08 ` Bob Manson
@ 2000-04-05 13:08 ` Bob Manson
0 siblings, 0 replies; 18+ messages in thread
From: Bob Manson @ 2000-04-05 13:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: overseers
My vote would go for sourcepool (actually I like the idea of just
calling it cesspool and getting it over with, but I'm *quite* sure
that's just me).
Bob
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* Re: Renaming sourceware
2000-12-30 6:08 ` Jim Kingdon
2000-04-04 14:52 ` Jim Kingdon
@ 2000-12-30 6:08 ` Stan Shebs
2000-04-04 20:27 ` Stan Shebs
` (3 more replies)
1 sibling, 4 replies; 18+ messages in thread
From: Stan Shebs @ 2000-12-30 6:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Jim Kingdon; +Cc: cgf, overseers
Jim Kingdon wrote:
> "Red Shed" (shed.redhat.com)
Or "woodshed", as in "I have to take that patch out to the woodshed".
:-)
There's also "barn", or "sourcebarn" (your one-stop download center!),
or "sourcesilo", with double-entrendre possibilities. "sourceholm"?
Or recycle "well", as a nod to the old online site, or perhaps
"Well of Sources", or "sink", or "cesspool".
Stan
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: Renaming sourceware
2000-12-30 6:08 ` Stan Shebs
2000-04-04 20:27 ` Stan Shebs
2000-12-30 6:08 ` Jim Kingdon
@ 2000-12-30 6:08 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2000-04-05 5:21 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2000-12-30 6:08 ` Stan Shebs
2000-12-30 6:08 ` Chris Faylor
3 siblings, 2 replies; 18+ messages in thread
From: Frank Ch. Eigler @ 2000-12-30 6:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Stan Shebs; +Cc: Jim Kingdon, cgf, overseers
Hi -
shebs wrote:
> [...]
> Or recycle "well", as a nod to the old online site, or perhaps
> "Well of Sources", or "sink", or "cesspool".
Hm, "sourcepool" is pretty good, and can be mispronounced as "cesspool"
in occasional frustration.
- FChE
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* Re: Renaming sourceware
2000-12-30 6:08 ` Chris Faylor
2000-04-04 10:49 ` Chris Faylor
@ 2000-12-30 6:08 ` Jim Kingdon
2000-04-04 14:52 ` Jim Kingdon
2000-12-30 6:08 ` Stan Shebs
1 sibling, 2 replies; 18+ messages in thread
From: Jim Kingdon @ 2000-12-30 6:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: cgf; +Cc: overseers
> Could we somehow fit . . .
Thanks for the suggestions; I've added them to
http://sourceware.cygnus.com/sourceware/rename.html
(and enclosed the current list at the end of this message)
Please keep those cards and letters coming. I'm looking for (a) more
suggested names, and (b) suggestions about process/criteria/&c (I'd
like to collect a bunch of suggested names before we start arguing too
hard about which ones are good. But I do want to know whether I've
missed any steps in terms of what needs to happen or factors we need
to consider).
Sources.redhat.com (can be pronounced "sources.redhat").
source-projects.redhat.com (probably too long)
source-forum.redhat.com
source-home.redhat.com
Any of the above without the dashes
"Red Hat Workshop" (workshop.redhat.com)
"The Open Source Garage" (garage.redhat.com)
"Red Hut" (hut.redhat.com)
"Red Shed" (shed.redhat.com)
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Renaming sourceware
@ 2000-12-30 6:08 Jim Kingdon
2000-04-04 7:28 ` Jim Kingdon
2000-12-30 6:08 ` Chris Faylor
0 siblings, 2 replies; 18+ messages in thread
From: Jim Kingdon @ 2000-12-30 6:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: overseers
Your input is solicited on the following
page at http://sourceware.cygnus.com/sourceware/rename.html - respond
as described or to this list, as appropriate:
Renaming Sourceware
Background: sourceware needs a new name - here are some criteria:
* does not infringe on anyone's trademark (like sourceware does)
* easy to remember
* easy to pronounce
* reflect Red Hat's involvement/support
* any other suggested criteria?
The process as it is currently planned is:
1. Don't combine the rename with other activities such as hardware or
software upgrades. Let's bite off something we can chew, get it
done, then look at whatever else we need to address.
2. Make a list of suggested names (the list so far is below, send
your submissions to sourcemaster@cygnus.com or just check them in
if you have access).
3. Try to reach a decision. The Powers That Be are thinking of just
conducting a vote (on the theory that it is largely a question of
preference), although we haven't decided for sure whether we plan
a more deliberate/structured thing.
4. Implement the rename. This is a lot of work, in that the name
appears many places, but it is straightforward. Plan is to do it
the same way as egcs.cygnus.com -> gcc.gnu.org, with the old name
working for an extended period of time.
Suggested names
* Sources.redhat.com (can be pronounced "sources.redhat").
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: Renaming sourceware
2000-12-30 6:08 Renaming sourceware Jim Kingdon
2000-04-04 7:28 ` Jim Kingdon
@ 2000-12-30 6:08 ` Chris Faylor
2000-04-04 10:49 ` Chris Faylor
2000-12-30 6:08 ` Jim Kingdon
1 sibling, 2 replies; 18+ messages in thread
From: Chris Faylor @ 2000-12-30 6:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Jim Kingdon; +Cc: overseers
On Tue, Apr 04, 2000 at 10:28:17AM -0400, Jim Kingdon wrote:
>Suggested names
>
> * Sources.redhat.com (can be pronounced "sources.redhat").
Could we somehow fit the feeling that these are actively developed projects
into the name?
source-projects.redhat.com (probably too long)
source-forum.redhat.com
source-home.redhat.com
(or without the dashes)
cgf
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: Renaming sourceware
2000-12-30 6:08 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2000-04-05 5:21 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
@ 2000-12-30 6:08 ` Stan Shebs
2000-04-05 7:52 ` Stan Shebs
2000-12-30 6:08 ` Bob Manson
1 sibling, 2 replies; 18+ messages in thread
From: Stan Shebs @ 2000-12-30 6:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Frank Ch. Eigler; +Cc: Jim Kingdon, cgf, overseers
"Frank Ch. Eigler" wrote:
>
> Hi -
>
> shebs wrote:
>
> > [...]
> > Or recycle "well", as a nod to the old online site, or perhaps
> > "Well of Sources", or "sink", or "cesspool".
>
> Hm, "sourcepool" is pretty good, and can be mispronounced as "cesspool"
> in occasional frustration.
That's good, I like "sourcepool". -s
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: Renaming sourceware
2000-12-30 6:08 ` Stan Shebs
` (2 preceding siblings ...)
2000-12-30 6:08 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
@ 2000-12-30 6:08 ` Chris Faylor
2000-04-04 20:29 ` Chris Faylor
3 siblings, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread
From: Chris Faylor @ 2000-12-30 6:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Stan Shebs; +Cc: Jim Kingdon, overseers
On Tue, Apr 04, 2000 at 08:34:00PM -0700, Stan Shebs wrote:
>Jim Kingdon wrote:
>
>> "Red Shed" (shed.redhat.com)
>
>Or "woodshed", as in "I have to take that patch out to the woodshed".
>
>:-)
>
>There's also "barn", or "sourcebarn" (your one-stop download center!),
>or "sourcesilo", with double-entrendre possibilities. "sourceholm"?
>
>Or recycle "well", as a nod to the old online site, or perhaps
>"Well of Sources", or "sink", or "cesspool".
I also mentioned "rhats.redhat.com", in semi-private email to Jim,
for "Red Hat Sources".
cgf
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: Renaming sourceware
2000-12-30 6:08 ` Stan Shebs
2000-04-05 7:52 ` Stan Shebs
@ 2000-12-30 6:08 ` Bob Manson
2000-04-05 13:08 ` Bob Manson
1 sibling, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread
From: Bob Manson @ 2000-12-30 6:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: overseers
My vote would go for sourcepool (actually I like the idea of just
calling it cesspool and getting it over with, but I'm *quite* sure
that's just me).
Bob
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: Renaming sourceware
2000-12-30 6:08 ` Stan Shebs
2000-04-04 20:27 ` Stan Shebs
@ 2000-12-30 6:08 ` Jim Kingdon
2000-04-05 6:43 ` Jim Kingdon
2000-12-30 6:08 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2000-12-30 6:08 ` Chris Faylor
3 siblings, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread
From: Jim Kingdon @ 2000-12-30 6:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: shebs; +Cc: cgf, overseers
OK, I've updated http://sourceware.cygnus.com/sourceware/rename.html .
If your favorite name isn't there, I probably didn't interpret you as
being serious.
Don't read too much into the "reflect Red Hat's involvement" thing -
this isn't something that RHAT is imposing on us (as a company, RHAT
doesn't pay the site that much attention :-)), it is our own devious
plan (same as the way that sourceware.cygnus.com is in cygnus.com not
sourceware.com, nothing more, nothing less).
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