From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Jim Kingdon To: cgf@cygnus.com Cc: tromey@cygnus.com, overseers@sourceware.cygnus.com Subject: Re: cygwin-xfree Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2000 06:08:00 -0000 Message-id: <200005041152.HAA17664@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <20000503221805.A13179@cygnus.com> <200005040259.TAA07015@ferrule.cygnus.com> <20000503230655.B13804@cygnus.com> <200005040309.UAA14692@ferrule.cygnus.com> <20000503232221.D13804@cygnus.com> X-SW-Source: 2000/msg00465.html > I sort of thought that, in the current Silver Age, there was a > triumverate of terror who ruled over all things sourceware. Yup, that's the way I see it. C'mon, Tom, you can't inspire Terror (that's with a capital "T") by saying "I only work here". If you are in doubt, just keep them guessing about what the decision was and who made it. That's always a good way to be an Evil Overlord. More seriously, usually Jeff, Tom and I are able to agree on stuff with some discussion. For the most part things end of reducing to "who will do the work" rather than "who decides stuff like technical direction" since the latter is more the project leaders anyway. As for cygwin-xfree, I'm still looking for objections to suggesting they go to sourceforge. One of the requirements for being on kingdon-rules.redhat.com, er, sourceware.cygnus.com, is a sponsor within Red Hat and in the XFree case we only seem to have one partial reluctant one (Chris). It's different than Cygwin itself as nearly as I can tell. As for angering XFree. I could write essays on the subject (short summary: don't let such concerns gridlock development) but the point is, that's something that a project leader would need to be willing to deal with. I don't see it as a matter for the Sourceware Central. At least, not primarily. > I know that Jason claimed to have left office voluntarily but I've > always had my suspicions... And suspicions they will remain. We can't very well maintain our aura of palace intrigue if we tell you what *really* happened, can we? From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Jim Kingdon To: cgf@cygnus.com Cc: tromey@cygnus.com, overseers@sourceware.cygnus.com Subject: Re: cygwin-xfree Date: Thu, 04 May 2000 04:52:00 -0000 Message-ID: <200005041152.HAA17664@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <20000503221805.A13179@cygnus.com> <200005040259.TAA07015@ferrule.cygnus.com> <20000503230655.B13804@cygnus.com> <200005040309.UAA14692@ferrule.cygnus.com> <20000503232221.D13804@cygnus.com> X-SW-Source: 2000-q2/msg00158.html Message-ID: <20000504045200.b70i3Jt862eQ3G62CHmlgE5OL8lEipG1T2mrlCadsRE@z> > I sort of thought that, in the current Silver Age, there was a > triumverate of terror who ruled over all things sourceware. Yup, that's the way I see it. C'mon, Tom, you can't inspire Terror (that's with a capital "T") by saying "I only work here". If you are in doubt, just keep them guessing about what the decision was and who made it. That's always a good way to be an Evil Overlord. More seriously, usually Jeff, Tom and I are able to agree on stuff with some discussion. For the most part things end of reducing to "who will do the work" rather than "who decides stuff like technical direction" since the latter is more the project leaders anyway. As for cygwin-xfree, I'm still looking for objections to suggesting they go to sourceforge. One of the requirements for being on kingdon-rules.redhat.com, er, sourceware.cygnus.com, is a sponsor within Red Hat and in the XFree case we only seem to have one partial reluctant one (Chris). It's different than Cygwin itself as nearly as I can tell. As for angering XFree. I could write essays on the subject (short summary: don't let such concerns gridlock development) but the point is, that's something that a project leader would need to be willing to deal with. I don't see it as a matter for the Sourceware Central. At least, not primarily. > I know that Jason claimed to have left office voluntarily but I've > always had my suspicions... And suspicions they will remain. We can't very well maintain our aura of palace intrigue if we tell you what *really* happened, can we?